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StoneColdGold

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posted November 21, 2000 07:51 PM

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If I am using Armidex 1/2 tab eod, Nolvadex 20mg/day, and Clomid 50mg eod throughout the entire 12 weeks (plus Clomid for three weeks post cycle), do I need to worry about gyno from this cycle???

(I ask because I already have puffy nips and think I may be gyno prone, so I don't want to fuck myself here. Should I just play it safe and drop the Ref-B?)

Week.......Sust......EQ......Ref-B(??)

1 .......500.......400.....2cc/day
2 .......500.......400.....2cc/day
3 .......500.......400.....2cc/day
4 .......500.......500.....2cc/day
5 .......500.......500............
6 .......500.......500............
7 .......500.......500............
8 .......250.......500............
9 .................400............
10 ................300............
11 ................300............
12 ................300............

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someguy

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posted November 21, 2000 08:05 PM

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I think you should be okay..


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harmonic

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posted November 21, 2000 08:05 PM

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It sounds to me you have done all the necessary precautions to avoid gyno. keep the ref-b you'll be fine.


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vexed

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posted November 21, 2000 08:14 PM

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that cycle really isn't that big I wouldn't worry about it even if you are gyno prone. Take your clomid eod and if your nips get sensitive then start with the arim and nolva. Looks good should get you 10-30lbs depending on experience with sauce.


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waterboy

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posted November 21, 2000 09:37 PM

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some one told me 1cc was good for ref-b after i saw that cycle im uping my dose to 2cc

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StoneColdGold

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posted November 21, 2000 10:57 PM

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Sweet. Thanks for the opinions, bros. You've definitely alleviated some of my fears. I will keep the Ref-B.

Waterboy... I'd definitely go with 2cc/day on the Ref-B. It is underdosed, so your are not actually getting the equivalent of 50mg of D-bol. Probably closer to 40-42.5 mg/day. But I think because of the stress on the liver, its better to just up the dosage and keep it to only 4 weeks, as opposed to 5 or 6 like some of the bros like to do.

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KODIAK99

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posted November 21, 2000 11:26 PM

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Sounds like you are covered. . .you're gyno might even be reduced from the armidex. . .good luck.

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StoneColdGold

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posted November 22, 2000 05:48 PM

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sweet. thanks again, bros.

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aky

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posted November 22, 2000 06:02 PM

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isnt that overkill??? I'm prone to gyno and just got mine cut... i'm doing a similar cycle with 600 eq a week and 30mg dbol tabs/week... 750 sust/week and only using armidex.. and clomid for 3 weeks post cycle... i think the armidex will be enough and keep the nolvadex on hand like i'am!!

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Maverik

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posted November 22, 2000 06:12 PM

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Aky's right. The arimidex and the clomid should be all you need. Don't add the nolva.


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StoneColdGold

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posted November 22, 2000 06:41 PM

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ok... i'll save the nolva and only use it if i think i see signs of gyno

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