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Eminem

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posted November 21, 2000 03:13 PM

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I am wanting to start a mild cycle thinking of eq alone or maybe stacked with dbol! Anyone else takin this as a first? I see many of you use eq to bridge, but for a first cycle from what I been reading seems like a good light first cycle. Maybe you guys good post what types of gains you had . I am also curious on dosages for myself i am 5'10 165lbs. bout 7 percent bodyfat. So please let me know thanks guys. Also does eq effect my nat test levels, will clomid be needed


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Hacker

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posted November 21, 2000 03:19 PM

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What are your goals for this cycle? Dbol/eq would be a good first cycle. You'll need clomid post cycle.


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Eminem

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posted November 21, 2000 03:22 PM

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See my goals in the future I think the ideal weight for me would be around 185-190lbs. I dont want to be much bigger then that i have a slim ectomorph body and just wanna put on say 20 pounds, I am in no rush I rather take 2 cycle then one huge cycle. I know this sounds odd but those r my goals.


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KODIAK99

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posted November 21, 2000 03:28 PM

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I agree with Hacker. . .


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Hacker

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posted November 21, 2000 03:31 PM

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Eq only isn't that bad for a first time. The gains will be slow but keepable. I did eq/deca for my first and gained 15 lbs. As always, depends heavily on your diet, training, etc.

If you want to do eq only, try 400mg/wk for 10 weeks. You may not need clomid, but I would take it just in case.

You would be alot happier if you stacked it with winstrol or primo.


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Steriod_Virgin

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posted November 21, 2000 03:33 PM

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7% is lean as shit bro... Do a search on dbol/EQ

Run the EQ @ 300mgs a week for 8 weeks
run the dbol for 5 weeks at 4 or 5 per day spilt out evenly through the day.

remember your clomid and keep nolva on hand


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Eminem

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posted November 21, 2000 03:35 PM

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why winstrol or primo? not by any means doubting you just why would that be a better stack then say dbol? i know my dbol gains are gonna be basically next to nothing when I finish and with primo/winny my gains are minimum but more likely to stay. Is this the reason or am I just not thinking this through


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Eminem

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posted November 21, 2000 03:38 PM

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k just a question and please dont flame me k, why is it that when you doing say sust you use higher amounts say 500 or 750 a week and then when I see eq users doses they are usually ranging in 300 to 400 mark. I know i am gonna get flamed but i am curious


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Hacker

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posted November 21, 2000 03:39 PM

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I just suggested those because you said you wanted to grow slow. (2 cycles) No sides.

Dbol,eq would get you what you want in one cycle.


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Hacker

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posted November 21, 2000 03:43 PM

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Usually eq, deca, etc. won't be more beneficial of a certain dose. Some will argue that. Example some say over 600mg/wk of deca is a waste.

Basically these are doses alot of the guys have had great results with. Thats what this board is for to bounce off our experiences,


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Eminem

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posted November 21, 2000 03:53 PM

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ya for sure well thanks for all the help i really apreciate all the help I wanna do this cycle right and need all the help I can get. I appologize for some of the stupid questions. Thanks guys and more help would be great


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Beezers

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posted November 21, 2000 04:05 PM

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Eminem, You are going to want to get bigger than 185-190, trust me. Once you acheive that you will want twenty more pounds on top of that. Think big bro. Eq/dbol would do well though. I'd say(and this is just my view of things)
eq-10 weeks, weeks1-8 400/wk, weeks9-10 300
dbol-5weeks, week1-35mg/day, weeks2-35, week3-35, week4-30, week5-25

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Eminem

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posted November 21, 2000 06:34 PM

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bump- more info please


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special_bill

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posted November 21, 2000 06:40 PM

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i have put on over twenty pounds with 30 mg dbol/ and 300 mg/week eq...no sides at all...except outer perfection...


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Eminem

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posted November 21, 2000 06:56 PM

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anyone find they have acne problems when using eq? i hear more of the test products like sus and onma are worse for that. Eq sounds great so far for my first getting very excited


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santo smith

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posted November 21, 2000 07:13 PM

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30lbs with eq and d-bol, was this you first cycle or what?? that is Good


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ulter

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posted November 21, 2000 07:24 PM

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Eminem, to address your earlier question of dosage. Some guys use much more than 400mg/wk. Hell E2 bridges with more than that. Big Brother Val used 700mg/wk and got tremendous results and no sides. I am using 300mg/wk just to bridge with right now. My point is if you are not getting the results you want at 400mg/wk going up to 600mg/wk is not out of line.


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special_bill

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posted November 21, 2000 07:31 PM

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yep- first cycle...i was around 177 and am at 205 as of last night...of course, i was probably no where near my natural potential...i train and eat like a beast...

tell you what, here is some pics even...
http://pub29.ezboard.com/frottensdoghousefrm1.showMessage?topicID=295.topic


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thermo

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posted November 21, 2000 10:10 PM

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a deca/dbol cycle will do you just good


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Badkins21

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posted November 21, 2000 10:19 PM

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Trust me, an eq/dbol will (if your diet, training, and rest are perfect!) yield the results you want! 300 mg/week of the eq, and 4-5 weeks of dbol starting at 30 mg/day, and tapering down the last week...

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Eminem

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posted November 21, 2000 10:22 PM

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So would i split the 300 up or take that in one shot once a week?


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Big Brother Val

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posted November 21, 2000 10:49 PM

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Ulter is right on the money. EQ is my favorite. 700 mgs a week, no sides. GREAT results.
I'm going to hit sust next for 10 weeks, then I'll go back to EQ, and I'm going to take 3 cc's PER DAY!! Can't wait for that.
I will also take D-bol for the first 5 weeks on my next EQ round. Just for fun.
But I love EQ, and have taken 2 EQ only cycles, and got better results on that that any stack I have done.
We're all different, however.


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Eminem

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posted November 22, 2000 04:50 PM

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Any other ideas?


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