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Bignick12345

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posted November 21, 2000 12:57 PM

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sust**deca**dbol**Winny**Trenbolone
1000**400**6.day
1000**400**6.day
1000**400**6.day
1000**400**6.day
1000**400**6.day
1000**400**********450
1000**300**********450
750***200**********450***75mg eod
500****************450***75mg eod****clen
clomid 100mg.day***300***75mg eod****clen
clomid 100mg.day***300***75mg eod****clen
clomid 50mg.day****150***75mg eod****eca
clomid 50mg.day**********75mg eod****eca

This is E2's cycle makeup for big gains on first cycle. Could I switch the sust with test enanathate?

Nick


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The_Iron_Game

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posted November 21, 2000 01:03 PM

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Hey bro, sounds extremelly similar to one of my last posts.Asked E2 to help out. Yeah you can use enanthate instead of sust.

If it is your first cycle I am 100% sure you will get away with using 500-750mgs(max) of test.

For a 1st cycle, in my opinion it is a little too much for my liking.

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Bignick12345

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posted November 21, 2000 01:07 PM

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Yea I was probably gonna switch it like this


enan**deca**dbol**Winny**Trenbolone
800**400**6.day
800**400**6.day
800**400**6.day
800**400**6.day
800**400**6.day
800**400**********450
800**300**********450
600**200**********450***75mg eod
400****************450***75mg eod****clen
clomid 100mg.day***300***75mg eod****clen
clomid 100mg.day***300***75mg eod****clen
clomid 50mg.day****150***75mg eod****eca
clomid 50mg.day**********75mg eod****eca


Thats it

Nick


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Badatta2d

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posted November 21, 2000 01:08 PM

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I have a question to your question.
I just finished a 250 only sus cycle for my 1st. I gained 25 lbs, sure some is water but say I keep 15-18 solid pounds from it.
My question is what would a person doing a cycle like this one in the post, expect to gain? I have heard this over and over to hit it hard the 1st time (I choose a different route) Do you expect to gain 30 or more pounds?? Just curious as to what is expected.

anyone????


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BigJay81

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posted November 21, 2000 01:09 PM

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That looks good bro, I would stick with 1000mg but Do what you feal is the best for you. Either way you won't be dissapointed.

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Bignick12345

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posted November 21, 2000 01:46 PM

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I bet I could gain a solid 30 lbs from a cycle like this. The winny and tren will solidify my gains toward the end. Tren is extremely androgenic but as long as I got my clomid I should be okay.
NIck


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The_Iron_Game

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posted November 21, 2000 01:49 PM

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Hey bro. Check out my next cycle. Its titled Iron Game and was posted by StonecoldGold. Its a few posts down.

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Badkins21

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posted November 21, 2000 01:51 PM

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If I remember correctly, aren't you around my age (19 or so??)...if so, I'd have to say that it's a little MUCH! Where do you go from there, think about your next cycle, and the next one...consider the law of diminishing returns!

I can see why ('cause I did, too, at first) you want to go insane on the first one, but I agree with Battat2d up there...what kind of gains are you expecting to get...???

And, you have to remember, this is coming from a guy who just did his first cycle of eq-dbol for only 6 weeks at mega-low doses and has gained over 30 pounds and holding...just my 2 cents, bro--good luck in whatever you do!

BTW, how much would that cycle run you ($$)??

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jettstream

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posted November 21, 2000 02:37 PM

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you should see excellent results with your second cycle,

impressive

good luck
jeTT


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oubeta

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posted November 21, 2000 02:47 PM

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Have you thought about aratest? It is cheap as hell and works just as good. It is a blend of two tests vs 4 with the sus and I believe it has 50mg of prop in it vs 30 in sus...just a thought


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Bignick12345

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posted November 21, 2000 11:29 PM

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Cost is really no issue, but Im gonna use enanthate. I am not a big fan of sust. I hear all sorts of bullshit about it lately. It should be used eod to get the best results. I can get it for 40 bucks for 2000mg. Thats good enough for me.
Nick


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rainhorn

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posted November 22, 2000 04:47 AM

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looks good...


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The Ghost

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posted November 22, 2000 09:00 AM

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BigNick, with a first cycle like that, you will be using two grams of test by your third cycle just to gain 15 lbs. I would reconsider those dosages for a first timer. I think you will gain very nicely with half of that.


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