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Enlightening Men about Anabolic Steroids and Bodybuilding for over Two Decades
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1105 |
Cycle update follows... for those who didnt catch part 1 its here: http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/11-2000/037352.html MY GAINS: Started: 190lbs @ 13.1% LBM = 165.11 lbs FAT = 24.89 lbs Gains after 14 days LBM = 7.21 lbs FAT = 0.79 lbs TRAINING PARTNERS GAINS: Started: 170lbs @ 11.34% LBM = 150.70 lbs FAT = 19.29 lbs Gains after 14 days LBM = 8.84 lbs FAT = 0.59 lbs *** My training partner took 1000mg of Enant on day 1 as opposed to my 1250mg of (sust and test) on day 1... NOTES: The second week I lost 0.47lbs of LBM and my training partner GAINED 2.96lbs of LBM. Why??? Training and Diet where the same??? Well we had 2 types of dbol's so we wanted Apparently I took the strong ones the first week and the weak ones my second week. That is the only logical explanation I can come too. So maybe all the test on day 1 aint that bad. On a positive side the T3 @ 25mcg per day worked wonders. Gaining only 0.59-0.79lbs of FAT is great Any Questions, comments??? ------------------     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 908 |
What instruments are you using for these measurements? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 454 |
The reason your partner beat you is because of clearance times from the body. Your sus. has 160 mg of each 250 mg as esters that take longer than 14 days to clear the body. 92% of Enanthate is out by days 14-18. ------------------ The moral? It doesn't matter whether you are a lion or a gazelle, when the sun comes up - you had better be running. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 175 |
I think taking t3 on a bulking cycle is pointless. You jack up your metablolism with t3 so you will need to eat more to make the same gains you could with the same A.S. and less food. If you didn't eat enough to make the t3 useless, your gains will be impaired. That t3 is for cutting cycles. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1105 |
The Shadow: I hear you about the sust acting longer. To make things clearer I will specify. I only took 500mg of Sust and 750mg of Enanthate on day 1. He took 1000mg of Enanthate. So I had 250mg less enanthate but 500more sust... I am pretty sure its the dbol. Look the first week he gained much less. We have cycled together many times before and we usually have very close gains. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1105 |
Natural: I use the calipers. 7 site siri formula I believe (i am at work) Anyway I know it's not 100% accurate but this is what the numbers give me We always do it on an empty stomach so even though it's not super accurate it is consistent and good to measure progress. Better than the guys who say I gained 20lbs of muscle and that really means 20lbs of weight on the scale By the way we measure 3 times per site so 21 times total. Smoot: T3 increases metabolism and protein synthesis. The faster you can synthesize protein the faster you can gain muscle. Low T3 will give more gains than no T3. The reason I stick to 25mcg is for low side effects and it would be hard to eat enough protein to keep up with the fast synthesis at a higher dose. Basically low dose T3 will increase gains of LBM during a cycle by 10-15%. Read up bro! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1105 |
bump | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 845 |
I've never really been that scientific about it. I just load up, lift, get on the scale and eat. I've got to respect your diligence. Keep us posted with the rest of your results. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1105 |
I am very anal about shit like that  Hopefully I will keep checking bodyfat on a weekly basis to see how much I keep. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 129 |
Where did you get your calipers? How much? I am also very anal. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 47 |
much props to you drexx for being anal and dilligent keep us updated on your progress this is interesting... 7lb of lbm in 2 weeks is not bad at all especially if you go 2on 4off... I wonder how this will affect your body as oposed to more moderate levels carried over longer times? Like maybe it is easier on the system because it is just one big jolt that is gone before the body has time to react... Anyone with a more scientific view on this... please add on.. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1105 |
I will keep updating. Last cycle before this one was 750mg of sust for 6 weeks. I gained 14lbs of LBM and kept 8lbs after 6 weeks off. I will do 2 short cycles lasting 12 weeks and see if I can have more than 8lbs of LBM extra Even if the results are the same. 2 weeks on and 4 off is funner for me...less HPTA disturbance, less sides... ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1008 |
Call it anal if you want bro, but I think it's great. You are very dedicated, and ya got my respect for it. Keep us updated! ------------------ |
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posted November 20, 2000 09:15 PM
