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Cool Novice 
Posts: 45 |
this is totally open to any changes so don't be afraid to be harsh. sus 500mg a week for eight weeks dbol 30mg a day for eight weeks deca 300mg a week for eight weeks nolva 50mg eod throughout clomid starting 10 days after last shot 100mg ed 50mg ed 50mg eod first 2nd 3rd weeks     | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 45 |
i'd like to get 35 to 40 pounds out of this. i know it's a lot but i gain weight easily. can it be done? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 775 |
I would only do the dbol for 5 weeks, and up the deca to 400mg/wk | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 45 |
sounds good to me. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1083 |
I would agree with Hacker, and remember to divide the dbol into 1 pill every 4 hours, day and night...HAPPY GROWING, don't forget to eat everything in sight! ------------------ | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 4450 |
I think it is way too much for a first cycle. Also, anyone who thinks that they can gain 35-40 pounds and keep it on one cycle has been greatly misinformed. Your body will simply not accept that much weight in 8 weeks (unless you are 250+). Stick with 250 Sus and 200 Deca (and the d-bol if you are so impatient that you cannot wait 3 weeks for significant results). If your diet, training, and rest is in order, then you could easily see 30 pounds (but keeping it is another story). Clen helps at the end I would actually suggest a Deca/D-Bol cycle. MORE IS NOT BETTER | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 45 |
now i'm confused. what do i do? | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 4450 |
The cycle is not going to hurt you physically (unless you are hypersensitive) but you will pay more for cycles in the future and get lousy gains (unless you use mega-doses) because you started so high. Try a conservative cycle and see what kind of gains you get. If you are not happy, you can go higher next time. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 284 |
I have to agree totally with 2thick on this one. My first cycle was deca/dbol/primo. I gained 30lbs in this cycle and kept 25 of those pounds. Suffered no sides at all and have some playing room with my next cycle. If you start out with test where do you go from there? | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 1 |
Pretty good advise so far, but I would not use any nolva unless you start signs of gyno, otherwise nolva will only hinder your gains | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 16 |
Being that this is your first cycle I would stick to just the sust and Decca. I believe that you first cycle promotes a lot of growth with not that much gear. Save the d-bol for when you feel that the sust alone won't give you the gains you would like.And you can also expect to lose 10 pounds of water after it's all said and done. KEEP LIFTIN' | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 260 |
Personally I would go with 400mg of Deca and 500mg of sust for a first cycle. Save the dbol for a 2nd or 3rd cycle. You will get some good results with that stack being a first timer. Clomid at the end 2 wks after last sust shot. and go on for 4 wks at 100mg/day, 100mg/day, 50mg/day, 50mg/day, for 4 wks respectively. Nolvadex keep it on hand and use 2wks after last sot if you dont have probs with gyno during. If you do then use it the sec you notice signs of gyno. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 416 |
I agree with 2thick. do a deca or eq and dbol or deca/eq and sust 250 your prob not gonna keep 35-40lbs no matter what (in the long run) and he's right: future cycles will cost more if you go overboard on the first one. whatever U do decide to take remember: diet and training are the MOST important factors. train like an animal, get rest, consume massive amounts of food. (esp. carbs!!!!!! it is my opinion that everyone worries too much about protein and not enough about carbs. thanks, my rant is over... peace. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 284 |
do deca and dbol 200mg deca every 5 days and 30mg dbol day for 8 weeks you will get good gains maybe 20 pounds but not much more dont be in a rush you got all the time in the world m8. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 45 |
thanks alot for your help everyone. Now I'll see what i can throw together (considering everyone's advice of course). | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 711 |
8 weeks of Dbol is a long time. 4-5 weeks is better. And you are dreaming if you think you can gain 45 pounds on one cycle. What do you weigh now? If you are 200 pounds now, a gain of 45 pounds is adding 22.5% more body size! You really think you can gain that much of LEAN muscle and maintain it? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 109 |
im on my first cycle, doing aratest 500mg for 8 weeks, 5 weeks at dbol at 40 mg a week, eq at 300 a week for 10 weeks, nolva on hand and clomid at end i believe what they say about the first is the bst, but i also want to have a GOOD one, i dont want to pussy out on my first, not saying that i will go overboard, but there is definitely a happy medium, i think 500 sus a week for 8 weeks, 5 weeks of dbol, and deca in your case(i can only use eq cause i play college football) ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 990 |
You have enough advice here to sort out your cycle, so the only thing that I will bother repeating is DO NOT do d-bol for 8 weeks. 4-5 weeks is plenty bro. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 45 |
thanks again guys. current stats 6'6'' 240lbs i'll keep u guys posted when i start. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 505 |
go with a deca/dbol cycle if you have to use test throw it in but go for 8 weeks and run the deca 10 or 11 to help solidify |
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posted November 20, 2000 07:21 PM
