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 Carvagen Lab (aka SwessPharma?)
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 171 |
Carvagen Labs has to be the same Bogus supplement, counterfeiting, scamming scumbags as Swess Pharma was! Same area, same marketing ploy (almost word for word)! Buyer beware!!!!!!!!!    | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 43 |
What a shame......I was happy to be a new comer to the board....than to hear some moron like you talk stupid.IDIOT!!! New to the board...hardly new to the industry. Swess Pharma ripped off who? He was a juice dealer who could have taken down half the industry......but took his time like a man. Put his ass on the line to hook up hard core bodybuilders......obviously not too many people agree with you.......I would have loved your stupid,assanine comment stay untouched but I just coulnt resist.IDIOT!! When he got arrested how was he supposed to send out refunds?Huh Moron?Or should he just have sent you your stuff from his prison cell?.........Oh....good to meet you...Im the new guy!! BITCH  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 171 |
Take a Valium bro! All Swess Pharma was good for was a bunch of GARBAGE supplements and selling COUNTERFEIT GEAR! I still have all the bogus Gear if your interested in seeing it! Plus the bastards did roll over on me and caused me some serious problems with the Feds! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 40 |
i was a partner with tom swess he roled on know one tell me who does 4 yrs for juice he was hardcore to the end . fact 1 he didnt own or operate ic,shal,jnm, rw,c&c those were owned by (john miloe) public record they were not friends actually got into a fist fight over john bringing heat for the fake juice he delt swess sold products like igf1 and always 100% of the time gave money back if unsatisfied his grey products were spiked there were numerous publications that tested them and raved them again swess was different than the people in ohio dealing fake juice(who also got caught first and snitched and the feds confiscated the mail coming in and maybe kept a list of names) | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 73 |
yes i too miss tom good real deal guy this fran- chise lady must be talking about jnm and ic | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 43 |
OH....JESUS...FRANCHISE YOU ARE A NOBODY......TELL US ABOUT THIS "HEAT"SWES BROUGHT ON YOU...LMAO HE WAS TTHE TOP DAWG.....DIDNT MAKE IT KNOWN....BUT I KNOW HE WAS........YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY A COMPLETE NOBODY.....HOW COULD HE BRING HEATON YOU?LET ME TAKE A GUESS....YOU WERE THE MILITARY PILOT BRING AIRPLANES FULL OF STUFF OVER TO USA?....OR WERE YOU ONE OF THE MEXICAN TRUCK DRIVERS BRINGING RENTAL TRUCK LOADS OF MEXICAN PRODUCTS? HE SOLD TO EVERY US MAIL ORDER DISTRIBUTOR,THAT YOU THOUGHT WAS BIG!! HE WAS THEIR HOOK UP...WANG!TELL US ABOUT YOUR HEAT.......I'LL BE OPEN MINDED. BUT....COURT DOCUMENTS ARE PUBLIC INFO....HE DEFINITELY DID NOT ROLE..PERIOD.PEOPLE WITH MONEY DON'T DO 4 YEARS FOR ROLING........HE WAS A STUBBORN PRICK....AL THE WAY TO HIS CELL.....COULDVE DONE A REVERSE STING ON HIS CUSTOMERS....IN THE 1000'S MIND YOU...HE DIDNT! WAS THAT THE "HEAT" YOU CLAIM YOU HAD....A LETTER FROM THE FEDS ? THAT WASNT HEAT...THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE GOT THOSE....THEY CONFISCATED HIS COMPUTER SHIT,GOT THE NAMES.....BUT HE SOLD OUT NO ONE! A DUDE LIKE HIM DID 4 YEARS SO YOU COULD SPEND YOUR PETTY $1500 DOLLARS AND THINK YOU WERE A DEALER!!! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 43 |
Good Morning!!!! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 43 |
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 171 |
As I said earlier I still have all the COUNTERFEIT gear that your good friend(butt buddy?) sold me! I would be happy to send it to you free of charge if you like. Fake Deca, Fake Dball, etc.etc.. And no Mr Ex Dealer I did'nt just get a little letter from the Feds.....They kicked my front door off of the F**king Hinges! I'm sure your 'Ole buddy Swess can tell you the story! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 110 |
chill ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 43 |
Hey Honey Cakes.......do you run a pharmaceutical lab? How the hell did SWESS "Bring Heat" on you? Who are you? You know his co. name...what was/is yours? When he got busted they wanted his connections.....not the peoplle beneath him. He couldnt have roled if he wanted to anyways!!!The Feds said quote"WE got our man" they werent remotely interested in anyone else at that time.In a prior case in 1995 we were co-defendants......like a true soldier he kept his mouth shut....BOTTOM LINE!! Court records are public records....so go get your hands on those...read them..than ..get back to me.This man has been rediculously loyal to this industry..if you got turned in..it sure as hell wasnt by him,how could someone like you even benefit him?Did you run a chemical lab?How were you "connected"to him....if he so called"ripped you off"...how could he turn you in?...If he ripped you of...he sold to you?.....So he was your hook up?Than you were beneath him on the food chain.....HOW THE HELL COULD HE TURN YOU IN!!! ----BOTTOM LINE---- #1 HE Never(knowingly)ripped off anyone #2 HE ABSOLUTELY NEVER ROLED(especially on a peon like you) #3 He is still in the Bodybuilding industry today...has many connections...and is certaily known to be a stand up guy | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 43 |
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Cool Novice
Posts: 43 |
Got the papers yet? | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 3 |
TOM MITLOW is back in the youngstown/austintown,ohio area again!! SO BEWARE OF ANY JUICE FROM OHIO HE WILL RUN THE SAME SCAM ON ALL THE NEW GUYS OUT THIER!!! after serving his time for saleing counterfeit and mislabeled products by the FDA never charged for saleing real steroids!! only counterfeit!!. he was spotted at pogos bar in youngstown and sammy max bar saturday in austintown with his partner rick from swess,icl,jnm and the other fake counterfeit companys they were running...why did he do all his time ?? because thier was no one for him to give up!!!! he made all the products in his garage at the condo he was living at in boardman,ohio..he use to supply that company in texas that was in the back of the muscle mag they advertised grey market products but would hook you up with toms fake shit.he would order the empty vials fill them with oil and then hand crimp them he would reseal the bottles back up..for labels he would have those printed up with a printer, glue them to the bottle then stamp a date on the bottle,hell his labels looked better than the ones tornel uses now and thier stuff is real!! I SEEN HIM DO THIS FIRST HAND!! whats else was funny you would get noranderan 200 from swess and his came in a clear vial,not the dark brown glass that the real came in, what the hell half of the 18-20 year old guys never seen the real shit or herd of it that live out in the suburbs.. he was and still is a real punk anyone who knows him or went to school with him at south range will agree with this 100%..people like him give the sport a bad name when he was in his prime he was 5'10 270 pounds and would sucker punch dudes that were 160-190 pounds for no reason!! people would say tom why did you do that and he would say i feel i'm not a man if i dont hit no one before i go home tonight..never would he start shit with the black dudes or anyone over 200 pounds,always the dudes from the suburbs remember those days tom 1993 when you use to be a bouncer at pogos pub in youngstown,ohio.... john milo did do 6 months in the youngstown cca for getting involved with mitlow. like he told the boys at the body shop gym in austintown i sold real juice for 4 years never got busted i join up with tom for 2 months and now this shit happens.. stay clear of this part of ohio fellows you will get fake juice. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 171 |
Need I say anything more Mr. Ex Dealer? | ||
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Novice
Posts: 3 |
put it at the top one more time to save a lot of guys some money from being scammed the fake company mitlow is operating now is in anstintown,ohio go to www.zoelabs.com watch out for all 445 zip codes in ohio that is him. |
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posted November 20, 2000 08:20 AM