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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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This will be third cycle (first time using test). I am 6'2'', 235lbs, 11-12%bf 1st cycle: 200mg Primobolan for 8 weeks (was also using winny which turned out to be fake). 2nd cycle: 300mg Primo for 8 weeks, 50mg Ref-B/day for first 4 weeks. Next: Week.......Sust......EQ......Ref-B(??) 1 .......500.......300.....2cc/day Guys I am jacked for my first time using test, but I still have some questions: 1) I want to split focus of the cycle. I will spend the first 6 weeks eating my brains out. I will spend the last 6 weeks attempting to cut bodyfat and preparing myself to keep as much of my gains as possible. I'm even toying with the idea of spending weeks 10-12 doing a "fat fast." Any thoughts? 2) Even though my bodyfat isn't low enough to tell for sure, I think I have some natural gyno (had it since puberty). Obviously, I want to take all precaution here. I will be using clomid AND nolvadex throughout. How much will this hinder my gains? 3) What about arimdex? How much would it cost for a cycle like this? Can it be purchased in Mexico? (thats where i'm going to get all my gear) 4) Finally... I haven't decided for sure to include the Ref-B. My thinking is that since I've never used Test, I'll already have a huge response without the Ref-B. And I don't want to go overboard with the Androgens, since I'm worried about gyno. Help me out! Thanks. ------------------     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 238 |
i would bump the EQ to 500mg or 600mg in the middle or in the beginning. my .02. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 260 |
Hey Bro, I am quite similar stats to you and also soon to be starting my next bulking cycle. Asked the mods to help and E2 put a great cycle together. I am gonna be doing that. Why not have a look and perhaps do the same. It is a few pages back and the topic is E2,El Cubano, Mods need help. If you 2 lazy to look bro, then I wouldnt taper the sust at the end and up it to 750mgs/wk. Hope this helps in some way. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 113 |
Thanks for the help so far. I'll probably bump the EQ up to 400/wk. What about the nolva and armidex? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 113 |
bump any ideas on the armidex? can it be purchased in mexico? also, what about my dietary plans? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 113 |
any more thoughts? please!  ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 511 |
at those test amounts youll need 1/2 a tab eod since youre 2rd week. but you should go with 600 eq a week . | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 48 |
how was the primo and d-bol cycle, how much in/or fat gains? was thinking of doing one. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 113 |
Santo- The primo/ref-b cycle went pretty well. I lost about 7-8lbs of fat, put about 40lbs on my bench, increased definition and thickness. Overall I felt really good about it, but keep in mind it was only my second cycle. This next cycle I'm doing will blow it out of the water. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 236 |
I would up the EQ, but other that that it looks good. I would do the sus 500mg straight through. With this being your first cycle with test you want to hit those receptors hard. Inject 250 on Mon, and 250 on thurs. I would also eat like a horse the whole cycle to be sure not to rob yourself of gains by lack of protein. The ref-b looks great. Let us know how it turns out. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 151 |
you are using the bare minimun of Eq..definately bump that up..also bump up the sus in a pyramid cycle start at 250mg pyramiding up to 750mg and then back down. the reforvit is good if it is real but it must be taken twice a day so split up your injections..the B-12 in there will keep your appetite and energy up. Do not lower your fats to a fat free diet in the last 6 weeks...eat during the entire time..you need the fats for your joints and organs especially under peroids of high stress. you want to put on the size before you worry about getting cut up..save that for after your cycle..puyt on all the size you can right now. Realize that the sustanon will still be circulating for a few weeks after you stop so..take advantage of all the time you have on. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 113 |
thanks for the advice guys. I don't want to take the Sust through week 12 because I want to still have the EQ in my system when the Sust is completely out. I think that will help me keep the gains. Can someone help me out with how to cycle Clen at the end of this cycle? Do I need to worry about using Clen if I'm also using armidex (or nolvadex) and clomid? ------------------ |
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posted November 19, 2000 12:00 PM