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big_dan

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posted November 18, 2000 04:34 PM

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well i have gathered my own thoughts on this issue. The saying "I would love to beat a juicer" makes me sick. You act like we are less than human because we juice. Like we are your average crack heads on the block. And "I'll show you what a good diet can do". Like we just stick needles in our asses and sit on the coach with a bag of chips and watch jerry springer. We have to work our diet and body's just like you homeboy. And when someone gives you an example of there cycle, you try to limit it. You now that with the cycle he is planning he will beat you so you try to turn the odds in your favor by saying you want to compete with some one who will only gain 15-20 lbs.(you never know what each person will gain off a given cycle, it not like each amp of cyp or every 12 dbols will make you gain 5 lbs) so what you are saying is that you want to compete against some one who you know you will beat(or think you will beat). what kind of shit is that? It is a one sided approach to attempt to supplement your weak ego.
You and all your natural friends can turn your noses up at us and act like we are going to hell because we juice and you are going to heaven because you don't. I could give less than a fuck if you or anyone else juices we don't juice for you we juice for us . so if you have a grudge against people who juice than don't visit our sites. sorry if this offends anyone but this is just my opinion. It is not an attempt to flame anyone just a friendly retaliation.

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conan69

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posted November 18, 2000 04:38 PM

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actually big dan that is very well said
and i totally agree with you

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bb4424

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posted November 18, 2000 04:55 PM

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Well said bro. Very well said.


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mr.cobra

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posted November 18, 2000 05:04 PM

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Three cheers for big dan. The whole "natural vs. 'roids" issue get real tiring after a while. Lift for yourself...you shouldn't care what other people do, or don't do, when it comes to the weights.


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supernatural

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posted November 18, 2000 06:06 PM

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yeah its bullshit countless time i go out, and if im look bigger its roids not hard work, seems to happen a few times a week, or those idiots at the gym that dont know what the hell they are doing, and think you are nothing but a product of drugs


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17alpha

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posted November 18, 2000 06:45 PM

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Brothra D!!!
Hell of post, dude! I'd been think'n'bout my juicin' in the wrong way. That's to say, I've always felt a bit uneasy about doin' it, that is, 'til now. No, I ain't about to scream a confession the next time I'm at the gym, but I will feel better about look'n better than Joe Public. I say, let the mortals deride us, for it is thy scorn that thwarts thy progress holds thy mediocre, to propel us ever higher! Read that piece of highbrow gibe on some bathroom wall. The things we learn when we use the head, huh?


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MICHLDAV

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posted November 18, 2000 09:00 PM

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Allthough I'm currently 'a natural' I put my feets down in this camp I'm with you all the way Dan. And about those guys at the gym bitching about a steroiduser only being huge because he on roidz, YEARH RIGHT! Theese guys are scum, wearing their designer shirts, fixing the hair and then chatting their way through a workout of theirs that could be cut down to 'bout 20 minutes of effective training. And then they wonder why they ain't getting shit bigger, PUKE!
MikE H /MICHLDAV

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Twisted_Steel

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posted November 18, 2000 09:04 PM

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Exactly no one cares, as long as your a success at what you do. Ohh, unless your an athlete and you test postive, then its everyones business, because they were cheating. LOL, what bullshit.

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big_dan

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posted November 19, 2000 05:57 PM

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Well thanks my iron brothas. It like I said I ain't a crack head I don't hurt anything except ego's!

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Kingwinny

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posted November 19, 2000 08:42 PM

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damn right, meatheads rule. 3 cheers 4 Gear!

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meathead011

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posted November 20, 2000 04:06 AM

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i think that its a choice, either you want to be natural or u want to get big


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Gforce

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posted November 21, 2000 10:24 AM

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Errr.
Meathead001....."i thinks its a choice..." etc etc...what utter bullshit. that attitude is the drug users equivalent of what Big Dan is quite rightly railing against in this thread. It is a knee jerk blanket statement against the efforts of all naturals, and also an all too common excuse for uneccassary amounts of drug use. You CAN be a big natural, its not easy but it can be done. granted obviously the biggest natural is not gonna be a patch on a heavy drug user, but compared to the manin the street, he will have an awesome level of physical development. Look back to pictures of some of the iron game legends from before steroids were even invented and you will see some thickly muscled, balanced physiques, the likes of which very few people possess now. I am not decrying steroids, but the attitude that they are neccassary for progress is a foolish and unsupportable one for the vast majority of atheletes. Please dont go perpetuating the myth that you need steroids to get big, it gives 290lb natural powerlifters like myself a bad name in the eyes of the public. Thanks, G.


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MS

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posted November 21, 2000 01:02 PM

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I'm not one to pass judgement on other people's drug habits. Just to point out (as a non American) that AS use is as much a choice in your country as using crack, heroine, coke, amphetamines, etc.... In other words, no matter how educated or justified you feel about you drug habits, they are still illegal and therefore not 'a choice' for your mainstream, law-abiding man on the street. And don't kid yourself that AS are not serious drugs. Any drug that you are willing to break the law and risk imprisonment to obtain has obviously got a strong hold on you (whether psychological or physical). Peace and good health.


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