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E

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posted November 18, 2000 01:15 PM

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hey, interesting report here...i am doing a report in anatomy class on this...A medical lab in london has discovered a chemical compound that when inject increases lean body mass by 27% WITH OUT EVEN WORKING OUT!!!! supposedly you lose all the gains after you get off it but hey for amazing *&%$ like that how can it not be worth it? They wont yet even realese the first strand of the chemical compound so I cant tell you guys what it is bit believe me...this is real $&%*!!!

laterz bros
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E2

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posted November 18, 2000 01:17 PM

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Sounds like a gdf-8 inhibitor.

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ulter

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posted November 18, 2000 01:17 PM

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What is it called?

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posted November 18, 2000 01:21 PM

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they haven't released a name yet...this stuff prolly wont be on the market for a couple of years...I mean they wont even release any of the molecules in it yet.

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E2

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posted November 18, 2000 01:22 PM

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BETHESDA, MD -- May 1, 1997 -- Johns Hopkins researchers have genetically engineered mice to grow herculean muscles, an achievement that eventually may lead to the development of treatments for muscular dystrophy and other muscle-wasting diseases.

"The first thing that we noticed was that the knockout mice had unusually large shoulders and hips," says Alexandra McPherron, a Hopkins Ph.D. student and first author of a paper in this week's Nature. "On closer analysis we found that all their muscles were two to three times normal size."


To create the mice, scientists "knocked out" a newly discovered gene called growth/differentiation factor 8 (GDF 8), erasing it from the rodents' genetic code. Without GDF 8, which limits skeletal muscle growth, the mice's muscles grew dramatically.


Hopkins researchers already have identified the human form of GDF 8 and are investigating whether it performs the same function in humans.


So far, the gene appears to be active only in skeletal muscle tissue, which may be why removing it seems to have had little effect beyond enlarging the mice's muscles.


"Except for the muscles, the mice appear to be normal and healthy," says McPherron.


Rights to GDF 8, first identified in mice by a research team led by Se-Jin Lee, M.D., Ph.D., an assistant professor of molecular biology and genetics, are owned by Johns Hopkins University and exclusively licensed to MetaMorphix Inc., a company that funded the knockout mice study.


"We're excited that GDF 8 could give us new opportunities to treat the many muscle-wasting diseases like muscular dystrophy or cachexia, the muscle loss that accompanies some cancers and AIDS," says Lee.


"We've also found GDF 8 in cows and chickens, so we might be able to interfere with it to create livestock with more meat and relatively less fat," says Lee.


Lee's group found the gene by searching for new members of the transforming growth factor-beta (TGF-beta) gene family.


Other TGF-beta genes include bone morphogenetic proteins, a group of genes that helps stimulate bone growth, and glial-derived neurotrophic factor, a gene that sustains nerve cells. Proteins from both of these groups are already in clinical trials for treatment of various disorders.


Hopkins researchers altered the GDF 8 gene in mouse embryonic stem cells, which appear very early in a mouse's development before cell specialization occurs. When these cells went on to produce egg or sperm cells in a mouse, the genetic changes Lee made were passed on to every cell of the mouse's descendants when they reproduced. Nearly a year after their initial creation, the mutant mice show no other signs of abnormality and can reproduce healthy offspring.


MetaMorphix was established in 1995 to capitalize on work by Hopkins and Genetics Institute, a private pharmaceutical company, in the field of growth and differentiation factors. Lee is a shareholder in and scientific founder of the company.


Under an agreement between MetaMorphix and The Johns Hopkins University, McPherron and Lee are entitled to shares of royalty received by the University from MetaMorphix. The University, McPherron and Lee also own MetaMorphix stock, which is subject to certain restrictions under University policy. Lee is also a consultant to MetaMorphix. The terms of this arrangement are being managed by the University in accordance with its conflict-of-interest policies.


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Slopain

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posted November 18, 2000 01:29 PM

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wow, I wonder how this will pan out for us..


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posted November 18, 2000 01:53 PM

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bump!...this is cool stuff guys...lets get some input!

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slabcat

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posted November 18, 2000 05:05 PM

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Holy shit! Good info, thaks E2. One of my close friends has severe muscular dystrophy. Hope this pans out for his sake....and ours.

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YAKUZA

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posted November 19, 2000 01:01 AM

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I've heard of this before. This stuff will probably be way too expensive for any of us to afford when it's out. Especially considering you'll have to buy it on the black market. But damn it would be nice...


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posted November 19, 2000 01:12 AM

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the shit im talking about isnt a gdf 8 inhibitor actually... i guess it is supposed to stimulte the adrenal glands(i think. ill have to double check what part of the brain it stimulates) in your brain and cause muscle gain. so between this and gdf 8 crap we should be pretty well off

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Bubba

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posted November 19, 2000 01:25 AM

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Very interesting!
I'll take two...


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posted November 19, 2000 03:50 AM

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you can buy human gdf-8 antibody serum(vaccine) for approx US$1000 per mg...i'm not sure of the total iu per mg, but it will be in the literature when it arrives...so far there are no in vivo studies published, so it' should be a fun trip...

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gary

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posted November 19, 2000 11:28 AM

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bump


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superkutt

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posted November 19, 2000 12:10 PM

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E2 your breadth of knowledge is awesome. thanks for the info!


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posted November 19, 2000 01:11 PM

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BTW e2, i am not trying to copy off your handle with my name...sorry, i didnt realize how close they were

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Jeff_rys

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posted November 19, 2000 02:42 PM

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Comon E, you must be joking, not knowing ????
E2 is on more then one board. I have no critique on this, but you could choose something more original, like A or B or C.

how can it not be worth it ?

Well because of the sides that come in a few years and are not know. I know "who cares" (for now anyway).

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KODIAK99

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posted November 19, 2000 02:51 PM

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Sign me up. . .


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posted November 19, 2000 03:39 PM

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no, really jeff, i just came from bb.org and have never seen e2 before...i use "e" because it is my initial. sorry man sheesh.

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delts

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posted November 19, 2000 04:11 PM

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Give "E" a break here, I'm sure he's not trying to top the great E2. And BTW E2, excellent literature there.......a good read.

delts

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Jeff_rys

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posted November 19, 2000 04:23 PM

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well E i am out off line here. But we already had E1, and you know, one thinks this is a joke.
But is is not, so let's forget it

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posted November 19, 2000 04:55 PM

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its allright guys... i just saw how that could have been taken wrong and wanted to clear it up. If its any help, I garuntee that e2 knows a shitload more about roids than i do

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Kingwinny

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posted November 19, 2000 08:52 PM

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why waste time testing them on mice when they can just call me up? I'll be a human guinea pig to get some of those drugs

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posted November 19, 2000 11:38 PM

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yeah i wish i knew how to volunteer for testing on supplements like that

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dannyb20

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posted November 20, 2000 12:25 AM

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Here are interesting sites I found on that gdf-8 stuff.
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/exclusive/volk/myostatin_print.htm

and
http://www.ultimate-exercise.com/bravenewworld.html

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Valdez

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posted November 20, 2000 01:07 AM

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Mwha ha ha. the science of bodybuilding is just about to become a little more complicated.


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