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riskybiz007

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posted November 18, 2000 10:00 AM

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i was thinking about doing an Equipose only cycle. My question is do i need any antiestrogens or clomid with it or is it unnecessary. And what kind of results would i expect with EQ only? was thinking about 100mg 3X/week. any thoughts?


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rohadawg

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posted November 18, 2000 10:04 AM

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stack with something.
go for the mountains not the foothills.


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riskybiz007

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posted November 18, 2000 10:07 AM

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problem is the money... and it's not going to get better any time soon so i chose EQ.. anyone help?


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krzysiu013

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posted November 18, 2000 10:24 AM

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id listen to the other folks. stack it. if you cant afford it now. save up and wait. you will NOT regret it.

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Hacker

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posted November 18, 2000 11:17 AM

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300mg/week is very light. Alot people use that dose for bridging. Some have seen great results on eq only, just depends on the individual. Do atleast 400mg/wk for 10 weeks, and you could put on anywhere from 5 to 15 lbs. All depending on diet, training, bla bla bla.

No antiestrogen needed, but I would take clomid at the end just to be safe. Probably don't need it though.


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jesus

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posted November 18, 2000 11:25 AM

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I watched a friend do 300mg/wk for his first cycle for 8 weeks. He didn't gain a single pound but got cut and vascular as hell. Oh ya he increased his strength about 20 percent. That was after working out for 2 years straight natural.


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Burnboy

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posted November 18, 2000 11:30 AM

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do sust instead

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CLEMDOG

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posted November 18, 2000 01:53 PM

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I was thinking about doing an eq only cycle for my next one. If so I would be getting 100cc's at 50mg/mL. That would be about 400-500mg/week.


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flexed1

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posted November 18, 2000 02:29 PM

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guys don't agree. YES stacking is the way to go but he mentions money is a problkem. after i competed i stayed on just eq and did great with it. was taking between 450-600 ml a week over 3 shots. fort dodge was the EQ of choice. i maybe one of the few it makes retain water on but it worked great.


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KODIAK99

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posted November 18, 2000 02:33 PM

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If its all you can get/afford, there is no problem with 300/wk eq. Just be reasonable about your results. You will gain some lean muscle and some strength, just not like a bro on a gram of test or droping abombs or dbol, you don't necessarily need to stack 2-4 AS every cycle. Your goals are your own and may not be the same as mine or another bro on the board. I am more along the lines of pretty heavy cycles, with a reasonable rest between, sometimes using eq or primo depot to bridge, but that doesn't mean everyone here is shooting for a 500lb bench and 21 inch arms. Choose your goals and shoot for them.


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Big Brother Val

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posted November 18, 2000 02:36 PM

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Hell... I loved my eq only cycle. I got great results off of it. Better on it's own than when I stacked it with Sustanon. With 750 mgs a week of sust, I took 400 mgs a week of EQ.
EQ alone I took 700 mgs a week... and got great results.
And the difference is, I didn't lose anything at all after the EQ alone like I did with the Sus.
Everyone is different.
EQ just works really well for me.
It's my gear of choice.
But I'm after Arnold's physique... not Coleman's.


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riskybiz007

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posted November 18, 2000 05:51 PM

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hey guys thanks for all the info and opinions. Yes money is a big problem for me, my goal is to gain some lean muscle mass. I'm 23, 127lbs, and 12%BF. I chose EQ because it's cheap and didn't want to go with the dianabol because i wanted to keep my hair and retain most of my gains. The other good stuff is too expensive for me now... I know there's a post up where someone didn't even gain 1 pound? Sounds pretty bad. What can i expect to gain from this? thanks again for all the replies...


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X-Man

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posted November 18, 2000 06:14 PM

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I saw a guy gain 15lbs in 8 weeks on eq alone at 400mg's a week..it all depends on how your body reacts..alot of guys on here say they love winstrol for harness and quality muscle...but it didn't do much for me...so the best way to find out is try it and see..

I will be doing an eq only cycle but I am also 225lbs so harness is my goal...a guy at your weight should go on something like 750mg sust for 8 weeks..400mg's deca for 8 weeks..and maybe 30mg dbol for the first 3..


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Gettinhard

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posted November 18, 2000 06:36 PM

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bro i am reading your last post...you say your 127lbs with 12% BF...how tall are you 4'10"? no flame but you might want to try to pack on some weight natural...if you cant afford gear how are you going to afford the necessary nutrition? I will bet if you save your money from the EQ and buy some quality food and protien....you will make gains...dont jump in head first...just my observation.

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jesus

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posted November 18, 2000 08:47 PM

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Just to add to my response, my buddy didn't eat enough and did not add any extra protein. So what I am trying to say is that his no weight gain was 100% his diet.


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Twisted_Steel

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posted November 18, 2000 08:58 PM

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EQ will can contribute all of the nasty androgen related sides your research has taught you to avoid. Yes, anti-estrogens or an aromatase inhibitor might be necessary.

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Olympian

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posted November 18, 2000 10:24 PM

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yeah if i were you definatly save up for a good stack
Think big


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The_Natural

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posted November 18, 2000 10:35 PM

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Has anyone gotten good results from low dosages of eq; like 200-300/wk?

Would deca be a better choice at those levels? Sides?

thx


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riskybiz007

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posted November 19, 2000 12:12 AM

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sorry that was a typo i'm not 125lbs, i'm 225.
About the sides and androgenic sides that EQ brings, i was wondering what can i take for them and when in the cycle? thanks


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ulter

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posted November 19, 2000 12:32 AM

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Yeah, I can't wait for someone to tell him what the "androgenic" sides are from Eq.
Go on tell him.


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The_Natural

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posted November 19, 2000 01:34 AM

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bump


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gearface

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posted November 19, 2000 02:17 AM

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Just ended week 3 of an eq only cycle at 300 mg a week. Ive gained 4 pounds and my bf% has not increased. My strenth is goin up fast. My bench is up 20 pounds and my squat is up 25 so im happy so far.

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The_Natural

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posted November 19, 2000 02:57 AM

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gearface, u planning on upping the dosage at all?
any sides at all; zits?
are u gonna be stacking later in the cycle?
thx


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BIG RICK ROCK

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posted November 19, 2000 03:28 AM

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Dude if money is an issue, I don't see any problems with EQ only cycle, I'm going to bridge between cycles with 200mgEq/200mgDeca per week, I have done this combination before and had great results.

Why not try and buy some deca and Eq and stack them, from experience I can tell you that 200mgEq AND 200mgDeca together work a hell of a lot better than, 400mgDeca OR 400mgEQ alone.

Another thing that comes to mind is that you might be getting ripped off by your source, how much is he charging you for the gear?? It is very possible you are overpaying.


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gearface

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posted November 19, 2000 09:32 AM

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Natural,

nah I'm not upping it. i did 400 the first week and now 300 the rest of the way through for 8 weeks. No zits, no nuthin. Most say you sont see results from Eq till week 4 and 5 so I think IM kinda lucky to see so much so far.Peace.


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riskybiz007

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posted November 19, 2000 10:45 AM

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yes i do believe my source is ripping me off big time but he's the only one i've got. I wanted to do deca but price for it was $220 for the 10ml vial of 200mg/ml. The EQ i think came out to half price i believe...
I read also somewhere that Deca and EQ should not be combined because they compete for receptors. Whether this is fact or not, i'm not sure, but i know i've read it somewhere. Also do u run clomid all the way through or just at end of cycle? and do you take anything other than clomid?


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BIG RICK ROCK

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posted November 19, 2000 12:34 PM

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The Myth about Eq and DEca not being taken together is a load of nonsence from people who just repeat what others post on the board.

I will tell this, I think EQ and Deca stack perfectly!!
and the myth about them competing for the same receptor is even more nonsence from people who don't have a good understanding of how AS work, All androgens compete for the same receptors, there is only one Type of AR (androgen receptor) yes deca will attach to progesterone receptors too, but Eq will not.

Drop me an e-mail, I'm sure i can help you get the most out of your cycle.

[This message has been edited by BIG RICK ROCK (edited November 19, 2000).]


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riskybiz007

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posted November 19, 2000 08:41 PM

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thanks for clearing that up, that controversy has been floating around for some time now...


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