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d1734

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posted November 17, 2000 07:20 PM

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if you are doing any significant amount of damage to your liver, will there be a sign of it happening without getting a test done by a doctor? like any pain, change in urine color, etc.?


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bb4424

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posted November 17, 2000 07:22 PM

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i think the urine color and stuff is all kidney related...

pain in your liver, obvious though....
good question..bump


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Mojo

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posted November 17, 2000 07:23 PM

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Go to the Doc Bro. Every one should have thier enzymes checked at least once a year. Any one on juice that is. If you show symptoms it's too late.


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d1734

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posted November 17, 2000 07:27 PM

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no can do...i'm only 17 so i will have to make up a bunch of bullshit about why i want my liver checked if they ask. if there is anyway i can tell on my own it would really help.


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bb4424

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posted November 17, 2000 07:29 PM

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only 17, shit you may be doing some damage...you feeling pain?

go get your blood done and say you cannot sleep at night and you are tired all day...


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d1734

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posted November 17, 2000 07:38 PM

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i feel fine...i'd just like to take a test after my cycle as a precaution. the heaviest point of orals in my cycle was winny at 90mg ED and anadrol at 25mg ED. i am taking shitloads of milk thistle and ALA so i think i'm fine but i wanna be sure.


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Mojo

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posted November 17, 2000 07:48 PM

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Go to a Doc in another city! I won't even go through the drill of telling you you're too damn young.A bombs are serious shit when it comes to liver strain. With winny on top? Must be nice to have that much money at 17?


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bb4424

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posted November 17, 2000 07:51 PM

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Wow. Dropping abombs already...where do you go from there?

Go to doctor as i said above. Maybe just get your annual check up(Physical), tell the doc you tried to give blood and they said you iron is real low and you should have a doctor look at it. The tell him about being tired.

Be careful bro, you are young and ambitious. Be smart.


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d1734

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posted November 17, 2000 08:24 PM

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ill probably just wait till i turn 18 to get checked even though it is 9 months away. the stuff wasnt expensive, i got the powdered winny. and 25mg is only 1/2 tab of anadrol, no biggie. but if u wanna know my plans from here, after this 8 week cycle i am taking 3 weeks off then doing 2 on/2 off because i believe 2 on/4 off is too conservative. i'm hoping to be around 220 @ 5-6% by summer.


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filo

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posted November 17, 2000 09:43 PM

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how much milk thistle a day? 1000mg?


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Anabolicum Mister

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posted November 17, 2000 10:19 PM

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There is no sure way to tell without blood tests. You may be able to tell if you get jaundiced or have liver pain, but it is certainly possible for damage to be done 'silently'. Lay off the 17aa's until you are ready and willing to get the blood tests done.


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Frackal

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posted November 18, 2000 02:12 AM

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D you're crazy bro. Check your mail in the morning I have something to tell you..


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