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schlong

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From:A 50-Gallon drum of TEST!
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posted November 17, 2000 01:09 PM

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I have been reading the board for a while now and just getting started, but I need help to determine what to takeout or leave in

Week______AraTest____Deca______Dbol____Clomid
1_________500mg______400mg______7/day_____0
2_________500mg______400mg______6/day_____0
3_________500mg______400mg______6/day_____0
4_________500mg______400mg______5/day_____0
5_________500mg______400mg______5/day_____0
6_________500mg______400mg______4/day_____0
7_________500mg______400mg________0_______0
8_________500mg______400mg________0_______0
9_________250mg______300mg________0_______0
10________250mg______200mg________0_______0
11_________0__________0___________0__100mg ed
12_________0__________0___________0___50mg ed
13_________0__________0___________0___50mg ed

Or the same cycle without the dbol, I want to gain as much as possible but don't want to be bloated like crazy. Is there any way to combat this? This is why I'm thinking of not using the Dbol, but is it beneficial to use the Dbol to kick the cycle in gear or not? Or would the Prop from the Aratest do ok in starting the cycle off?

Thanks

I know you all get tired of these questions so be gentle

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The_Iron_Game

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posted November 17, 2000 01:11 PM

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Seems like a great cycle bro. You will get a lil bloating from the dbol but it will go away when you stop. Its up to you. It will increase strength like almost no over though.

Let us know your results

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Hacker

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posted November 17, 2000 01:13 PM

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Looks like you did some homework. I would stop the test at week 8, but how you have its ok too.

Get some arimidex for the bloat.
.5mg eod is fine or 1 eod.

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DYLAN

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posted November 17, 2000 01:44 PM

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I like it!
I would also use clomid 50mgs EOD throughout the whole cycle.
D.


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schlong

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posted November 17, 2000 02:19 PM

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stop the test at week 8 of 500mgs or taper it from week 7 & 8 to 250mg then stop it? Also if I do the clomid all thru the cycle would I do it at the end also?

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KODIAK99

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posted November 17, 2000 03:30 PM

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Stop the test at weeks 8, I wouldn't be concerned with pyramiding the dbol, as the test will be kicking in when the dbol ends. I am not a believer in clomid throughout. I would save it for the end and get some Nalvodex instead, to keep on hand just in case. Overall, an excellent choice of cycles, well researched and I wish you luck. Keep us posted.


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Beezers

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posted November 17, 2000 04:03 PM

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According to my calculations you have at least enough ara for ten weeks @500. Use it all bro.

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AZtallguy

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posted November 17, 2000 04:35 PM

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I disagree with schlong. Test will stay in your system for up to 4weeks after your last shot. It really doesn't make a difference if you taper.


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schlong

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posted November 17, 2000 10:23 PM

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schlong is me, the one posting the cycle in the first place. I was responding to the post from the others on the cycle, but I got it under control now.

One more question, if someone is prone to gyno ( I thinks me ) would taking nolvadex thru the whole cycle help? And should I start it before the actual start day with the gear? I think 20mg ed or eod?

Thanks for the help so far.

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KODIAK99

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posted November 17, 2000 11:52 PM

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I usually wait until the end of my cycles to hit nalvodex, mainly due to the fact that your not taking the AS anymore so your estrogen shoots up, the clomid makes it even more possible to have gyno. You can go throughout to be safe, but it can also hinder your results.


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