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thefantom1

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posted November 16, 2000 01:14 AM

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My "friend" who only has experience with the old sust redijects (the ones with the harpoons on them) is going to start a ara-test,cyp,dbol cycle soon..He wants to know if he can use a 23 gauge needle to draw from the 10cc bottles he has..or does he have to get a larger gauge needle (20 or 18) to withdraw from the bottles?? thanks and I know..I suck am stupid and am just 1 step up the ladder from 2skinny.. :-)

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BigJay81

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posted November 16, 2000 01:19 AM

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If you want to sit around for a while wasting time. Just pick up some 18gauge their cheap

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greenhouse

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posted November 16, 2000 01:24 AM

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I use 23 all the fucking time. I cant imagine that it would be that much quicker. Plus more fucking needles to dispose of...

just my opnions


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YAKUZA

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posted November 16, 2000 01:26 AM

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Actually I draw with a 20G and it's qicker. But you can draw with the 23 with no problem, just a little slower.


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thefantom1

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posted November 16, 2000 01:36 AM

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thanks bro's..but how long would it take to draw 2cc's out with a 23 gauge compared to a 20 or 18? Thanks

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gonnabehuge

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posted November 16, 2000 08:31 AM

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bro...
i prefer 23's myself, yeah you draw slower and shoot slower but not enough to make a difference...after all you gonna be in a hurry while your shooting???? rushing through that process is a great way to fuck up. IMHO
Mike
oh yeah unless your gonna shoot with the 18 you gotta change pins anyhow right?? That's a waste of time in and of itself

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Green

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posted November 16, 2000 11:21 AM

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Fuck that. 18 is the way to go to draw! I switch pins anyway after it touches a stoper or the bottom of the amp. You can draw an amp in 4 or 5 second with no bubbles instead of holding back the plunger for minutes to let all the oil and bubbles in. Go with 18 to draw! LAter, Green


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BigTruck

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posted November 16, 2000 11:28 AM

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I use 18s to draw, 23s to shoot. Never tried to draw w/ a 23. Guess I always just figured that I'd rather have the sharpest needle available when I stick. (It dulls when you draw and shoot w/ the same needle because you are either holding the needle against the bottom of the amp or pushing it through a stopper)


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Decaman

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posted November 16, 2000 12:05 PM

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18 to draw for sure bros! 23 to shoot .

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Maverik

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posted November 16, 2000 09:52 PM

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For whoever said it couldn't be that much quicker with 18 g, trust me it is. Instead of waiting for 2 minutes to withdraw the juice like you have to with 22 or 23 g, it just sucks it right up. You can use 23 g fantom1, but just be sure to switch needles afterwards because it dulls the needle when you withdraw from a multi dose vial. It is only like $9 or $10 for 100 (18 gauge) so go ahead and get some.


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thefantom1

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posted November 16, 2000 11:18 PM

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Thanks Mav..and the bro's... I'll let my "friend" know..

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KODIAK99

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posted November 16, 2000 11:21 PM

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22 for both, works just fine for me. and your far from our old buddy 2skinny. He must be up to 500 pounds and benching damn near a thousand by now. . .


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Zeacky

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posted November 17, 2000 12:19 AM

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I draw fina with 25g 1 inch needle, but I put it in a starbucks mug of boiling water, it's real fast too, I then switch the needle to 25g 1 1/2 inch to inject with.

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latona

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posted November 17, 2000 02:12 AM

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not only is it more sanitary to use a separate needle to shoot, it is also less painful (pushing the needle through the rubber stopper can blunt the tip). So if you've got access to pins, definitely get extra, and as most of the bros have said, 18g will load faster (if that is reaaly an issue).


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May1010

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posted November 17, 2000 02:23 AM

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I'm in the process of ordering for the first time but my prospective supplier doesn't provide the syringes/needles that I'll need.

The products I'm ordering comes in vials.

I live in San Francisco. Does anyone have any suggestions about where I might find 3 mL syringes?


Thanks in advance.


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BigJay81

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posted November 17, 2000 02:25 AM

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Read my post above.


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