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 What a search didn't tell about Trenbolone Actetate
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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Yeah I tried a search for trenbolone, and fina, and !damn! is there a lot of shit to sort through. None of them answered these questions. 1) Any reason not to use Component T-H instead of Finaplix-H pellets? Neither have estradiol, there is 4000mg TA in Component, 2000mg TA in Fina, and one saves about $5 with the Component as compared to 2 Fina carts. 2) While we all know that acetate is a small ester and that makes for quick release, what kind of information do we actually have about the release? Would a Monday-Thursday-Saturday split work as opposed to the 75mg EOD typically mentioned? It just makes sense to combine it with the other juices, since I'm not fond of needle scars. 3)While lots of people say Fina is bad for your kidneys, or worse than other AS on your liver, as soon as trenbolone is called Parabolan all these qualities seem to disappear. More specificaly, any reason it would be wrong to use TA for 10 weeks, 250mg divided between 3 doses, along with 250mg aratest and 300mg ultragan for a cutting cycle? Thoughtful replies are appreciated. Peace! ------------------     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 247 |
There is no difference in using TH over Finaplix other than there are fewer binders in the TH (this is a good thing). The TH is not 2x as strong, it just has more pellets in the cartridge. I, personally do not think that it would hurt you to take it for 10 weeks. On a long duration tren cycle like that one, it would grow more and more important to take precautions seriously. Water, cranberry juice, and more water and cranberry juice. I also feel that one would need to take it 4x a week. 3x a week may be fine, but remember that it is a very fast acting drug and will be in and out pretty quickly. Just my 2c, and I am glad that I have the chance to help you out. B True | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 401 |
my current cycle has fina included for 10 weeks 100mg/day but i also drink 2 gals of water and take lots of craberry and milk thistle extracts along with primrose oil and multi/anti-ox | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 932 |
Acetate is a very short ester -- only one carbon in length. The drug would reach peak blood serum levels very approximately in 24 hours, then start to drop. That's the reason for the frequent injections. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 209 |
WHy would it be hard on the liver? Its not a 17AA drug. Im not sure about the kidneys, there was a post awhile back that talked about someone getting a urine sample while on Fina and the doc said there was nothing wrong. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 425 |
All steroids are hard on the liver. It isn't a matter of if a particular compound is hard on your liver, but how hard it is. Primo, for example, is gentle. Halo is harsh. I can't find any evidence for Trenbolone being physiologically damaging to the kidneys. Lots of people saying they've heard about it, some people saying they experienced GU symptoms on Fina, but with the stacks some people take (and the fact most don't go to their doctor) who the hell is to say what the culprit is. Thanks for the exact release time GymRat. Peace! ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 424 |
Juicer54 please email me about your cycle, I have a few questions. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 209 |
Dr.Atlas, I see your point, but 17AA drugs are made to be hard on the liver and its methods of metabolizing drugs. They will be much more harsh(i would think) than anything else. Even the 17AA drugs take a long time to do significant damage, talkin years of use here. Have several medical studies of VERY longterm use of Anadrol(60mg/day for 3 years for example) and other 17AA drugs causing liver problems, but all are longterm theraputical cases. Have yet to find one about liver problems with the bodybuilding doses we describe on this board. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 364 |
Atlas.....that would prob be an excellent choice of drugs to use while cutting. you've got your ara as your base test, the fina-well....its trenbolone (enough said!)...the only thing i would change would be your choice of anabolic. dont get me wrong...i love eq, its my favorite anabolic and im running gana, aratest and dbol right now. the boldenone will increase your appetite, which may be counter-productive to your goals. a better choice, in my opinion, would be to use winny instead of eq. there seems to be a synergy between tren and winny and the two work really well together. as long as you drink plenty of water, take your liver protectors and monitor your enzymes and get blood work done you should be fine.... you make an interesting point bro...one ive thought of many times. tren-acetate seems to conjure images in peoples minds of athletes pissing blood....etc. mention parabolon and youll hear tales of its wonderfull and benificial qualities. ive always found it amusing that people will take the chance to obtain parabolan, pay out the ass for it and prob wind up with a low-dose test--there are some REALLY good fakes of para out there. for roughly $80 i can produce a very sterile product containing roughly 2000mg of tren-acetate....which is shorter acting, stronger, and allows one more flexibility in controling blood-levels of the hormone. Shit....id take my home-brew trenbolone over parabolan any day......... btw.....aratest is a good prod if you havent tried it yet....heh...heh--happy GROWING! Unity66 | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 522 |
I think your questions were well answered. Equipoise makes me hungry all the time, so it might be detrimental to a cutting cycle. I have not seen the science on it, but anecdotal evidence favors frequent injections. I used a cc ED for quite awhile with good results. There was a recent post that had a study showing no high risk factors for liver/kidneys with tren., no more so than any other steroid of its class - of course I can't find the damn article now. Here's some shit though; I mentioned to a guru type on this board that I was messing around with the tren in a cycle. He said "you'll be pissin blood in 4 weeks". I said "bullshit". Don't you know that in the 5th week I was pissing blood. Now, I don't think it was the tren, but I quit it, took antibiotics and cranberry extract, and it went away. So was it an infection, stones, or the tren? I'll find out next time I cook up a batch, cause I like it - lean and strong. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 156 |
Dahm bro, you make me worry. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 522 |
Don't sweat it too much, Donald. I think it was a kidney infection. But I am going to back it off to EOD next time, and stick to the 4 weeks. (also, I used a batch with 33% more fina than the recipe calls for, just to see if it could be done - it can) | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 362 |
personally, when I take fina. I dont really notice much until about 6-7 weeks in, but after that... damn! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 114 |
On my fifth week of fina and haven't had any bad side effects. No dark urine, kidney pain or bloody piss. I am drinking water every chance I get between 1/2 to a gallon of water extra each day. The first couple of weeks were great strength and body weight went up around 10lbs in 2 weeks but has since slowed down a great deal. I am was taking 75ml of fina and 35ml of prop EOD. I upped the prop to 50ml eod and might take the fina ED. I want to be safe so I'll probably not take the fina ED.
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 144 |
Wha about the increase in anger- i seem to have that-tomo | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 114 |
I wouldn't call it anger but I don't take shit from now one now. And in my job thats not a good thing. I have had to talk to the boss more than a few times. I guess the rapind increase in weight and strength makes me a little cocky....
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posted November 15, 2000 05:51 PM