Author | Topic: Underdosed Norma Hellas | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 246 |
I have been using Norma Hellas Deca for years and have always found it to be an excellent quality product. However, the last batch that I bought are all underdosed by about 0.25ml! There are also lots of small differences: The printing on the box and label is slightly smaller, the blue color of box and label is marginally lighter, the oil has a stronger yellow color and the lot no.'s and exp. date on the box are imprinted and not stamped in ink... otherwise they look good. The lot number of this batch is 12068 exp. date 9/02. Any ideas whether this stuff is legit or just an excellent fake? Peace... | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 938 |
Don't know, but I will bump it for ya! Sounds suspicious?????? ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 246 |
Bump this for the mods and vets... please help. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 88 |
According to the database here. All legit AS is stamped lot number and expiry. If it is printed in same manner as label it is fake. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 167 |
Hey bro I got a couple from a pharmacy in Greece, and I think they were a little underdosed. not .25 ml . lets say .10. And those were 100% legit. ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 213 |
I had those same ones, I posted about it awhile ago. I didn't like the way they looked, so I sold them. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 246 |
Thanks for the replies. The stamps look good... there are 2 different stamps, one on the box and the other on the vial, both done in a different process. There are NO other tell-tale signs of a fake except that they are underdosed. Anyone have the same lot numbers??? | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 517 |
Wait a minute, didn't you say that the lot and expiry date were imprinted on the bottle label, not stamped? I have only seen normas with that info stamped, and it is said that the ones printed were bogus. E2 says that it is not uncommon for legit normas to be underfilled ( which is what I assume you mean ) I had a real batch that had one vial short by 4/10ths cc, and another that was over .25 cc. but the date is always stamped - check e2's drug pics page - he shows both. | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 424 |
yes,i also have a few of them and from what i saw there were underdosed. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 145 |
I dont believe they are a fake, but possibly underdosed by the manufacturer. Why would someone wish to underdose a fake to make it stand out. To me it just doesnt make sense. Anyway thats just my opinion. I have heard there are a lot of fake Norma deca's out there, anyone have any info on this? I am about to order some and dont wish to do so if its possible they are fake. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 238 |
Sometimes it happends. I have 2ml vials of nandrolone phenylpropionate (HB, India). They are underdosed about .3ml but they works great. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 65 |
bought a s-load of these about 3years ago at 10$ a piece and they all turned out to be bogus. The oil had no yellow tint at all..completely clear and they all came loose. I have heard the new ones are legit. i was lucky enough to get my money back but you have to keep your eyes open. |
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