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nexus6

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posted November 14, 2000 09:06 AM

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If I am looking to gain between 3 and 5 Kg ( 6 - 10 Lbs, I think...) of LBM in a cycle but without the use of injectables, is that possible at all - if so what do you recommend?

Any help appreciated...


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lizzy

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posted November 14, 2000 09:24 AM

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Have you tried andriol? You'll need to take about 280mg per week. It isn't much use if you have used steroids before but if your body is fresh then you should get some good results. Try it over a 8-12 week cycle. I think you would be able to get 5kgs of lean mass that way. Its a very safe steroid too. Its ideal if you are cautious. There are several oral steroids you can take which will probably get you triple the results. They are quite toxic though so you'd need to take anti-estrogens while on them and you'd need to resuscitate your testosterone levels when you end with them. The gains won't be as sustainable as with weaker steroids like andriol. If you are interested try oral-turinbol. It is weaker than some of the strong orals like dianabol and the gains are more sustainable. Its relatively healthy too but not as good as andriol, deca, etc. Keep an eye on you liver.


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Nexus 6

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posted November 14, 2000 09:51 AM

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Hey nexus6,

Either you are also a Replicant from an Off-world colony��or you are using MY handle!

Hahahaha!

The REAL Nexus 6

****�Early in the 21st Century, THE TYRELL CORPORATION advanced Robot evolution into the NEXUS phase - a being virtually identical to a human - known as a Replicant.

The NEXUS 6 Replicants were superior in strength and agility, and at least equal in intelligence, to the genetic engineers who created them.

Replicants were used Off-world as slave labor, in the hazardous exploration and colonization of other planets.

After a bloody mutiny by a NEXUS 6 combat team in an Off-world colony, Replicants were declared illegal on earth - under penalty of death.

Special police squads - BLADE RUNNER UNITS - had orders to shoot to kill, upon detection, any trespassing Replicant.

This was not called execution......it was called retirement.�****


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Quarkey

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posted November 14, 2000 09:57 AM

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Nexus6....the real one, you must have a lot of time on your hands bro...LMAO


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nexus6

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posted November 14, 2000 11:36 AM

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haha...well ok I am the fake one - you ve been on the board longer. but are you gonna help with my 1st cycle or not?

Thanks for your great advice Lizzy, I am gonna look into Andriol, I think -


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Hacker

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posted November 14, 2000 11:42 AM

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Anavar at .125mg per body weight per day
Example 200 lbs. x .125 = 25mg/day (10 tabs)

Don't be afraid of injectables it's no big deal. Anavar is expensive but your best bet for a weak oral cycle.


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Nexus 6

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posted November 14, 2000 12:20 PM

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Quarkey, Time is an abstract concept. However both Aristotle and Newton believed in absolute time. That is, they believed that one could unambiguously measure the interval of time between two events, and that this time would be same whoever measured it!LOL!

Nexus6 (the other one), If you really, really don�t want to inject and want a safe oral I would suggest that you take a look at Anavar. A little expensive but worth every penny. Safe enough and will give you plenty of strength. How much you gain will depend upon your training and especially diet so study this aspect well. With a good plan you should make the gains that you are looking for. You should be able to find it quite easily in France.

Why do I get the feeling that you are going to get persuaded to inject and talked into a Dbol / Test cycle on this thread. These guys just LOVE those needles! Hahahahaha!!!!

Nex

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KODIAK99

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posted November 14, 2000 12:24 PM

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Anavar sound like a mild and reasonable choice.


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BigTruck

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posted November 14, 2000 12:31 PM

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How long have you been training? How old are you? What are your current stats?

I would suggest you get over your needle phobia before you start cycling though.

[This message has been edited by BigTruck (edited November 14, 2000).]


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The_Iron_Game

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posted November 14, 2000 12:48 PM

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Is there any reason no one has mentioned oral winny? This guys the prime candidate. 6-10lbs of pure rock muscle in his first cycle. Andriol over Winny? What where you guys thinking. Nah just kidding.


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whodaman

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posted November 14, 2000 12:58 PM

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DO NOT GO WITH ANDRIOL!!!!It is basically worthless. I would suggest you re-think sticking with orals only...but since I know you aren't going to, get some, winstrol, or anavar.....


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waterboy

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posted November 14, 2000 05:47 PM

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a-bombs


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nexus6

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posted November 15, 2000 03:05 AM

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Well thanks to all for your help - about this 'no injectables policy of mine...its just that I would have no one to inject for me...then you guys are gonna say: inject yourself, wimp! but i.m. injection can be dangerous, and from some of the posts I read on this board b4, u guys have had some funny shit happen with these things...
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BTW: I got the idea Winstrol was bad for a 1st cycle, why is that?


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Sharps

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posted November 15, 2000 03:13 AM

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Nexus an oral only cycle is hell on your liver.

I do all of my injections myself, I have not had one problem.

It does not even hurt man, At worst I will feel a prick usually I dont feel anything.

You will see better gains of injectables too.


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WCP

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posted November 15, 2000 03:20 AM

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Injections are basically safe if done with sterility, and in the correct location. If done on your ass, the upper/outer quater is where to shoot. You have alot of room there no fear of hitting the "dread nerve"

Your first cycle is going to be the best anabolic experience you have if you do it correctly.

And whoever said this above is correct, Im pushing 2cc's of sust a week and 30mg of dbol a day for 6-8 weeks.

Its your first cycle, make it worth it.
WCP

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nexus6

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posted November 15, 2000 03:28 AM

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Thanks WCP and Sharps,

I know, injectables are safer on the whole...still this is scary shit when doing it alone...I wish I were dating a NURSE.


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WILDTHINGURI

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posted November 15, 2000 02:54 PM

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HEY BRO IF YOU WANT TO GAIN A GOOD SIX TO 10 POUNDS ON A CYCLE I THINK THAT MAYBE SOME LAURABOLIN , OR POSSIBLY SOME ANAVAR.. JUST A SUGESTION OR JUST BLOW UP AND GO ALL OUT ...

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WILDTHINGURI

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posted November 15, 2000 02:56 PM

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HEY BRO IF YOU WANT TO GAIN A GOOD SIX TO 10 POUNDS ON A CYCLE I THINK THAT MAYBE SOME LAURABOLIN , OR POSSIBLY SOME ANAVAR.. JUST A SUGESTION OR JUST BLOW UP AND GO ALL OUT ...

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