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Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 13 |
The world anabolic review says that clenbuterol is thermogenic and burns body fat when taking it. It doesn't say whether ephedrine burns body fat. It says that it too is thermogenic but doesn't say whether it just burns extra calories, i.e. that you take in with your food, or whether it burns the calories which have already been stored as body fat. I assume that this is what clenbuterol does. Can anyone clarify this for me? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 20 |
they work via the same axis. But clen is too expensive though. Eph is OK. They secrete more adregenic hormones and they in their turn deplete musclegycogen and frees trigrlycerides som they can be combusted. They also lower nutrient uptake. They should me taken on an empty stomach. Work tremendous with Tramadol. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 364 |
ilpsoas...what's Tramadol? ------------------ "It's like mind over matter. If you don't mind... IT DON'T MATTER" Flash� version--> http://www.geocities.com/richmaffei/index.html None Flash� version--> http://www.geocities.com/richmaffei/pages/home.html ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1025 |
Take clen for two weeks, then take ECA for two weeks, then clen for two weeks, then ECA for two weeks. Clen loses it's effect early. The combination is awesome. Dexter ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3106 |
Clen doesn't do ish for me. I have given it a coulple chances but each time am dissapointed. I think a standard EC or ECA 'stack' is optimal way to go. Some T3 might be nice too! Slopain ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 364 |
I agree with Slopain. Clen is ok, but ephedrine rocks! ------------------ "It's like mind over matter. If you don't mind... IT DON'T MATTER" Flash� version--> http://www.geocities.com/richmaffei/index.html None Flash� version--> http://www.geocities.com/richmaffei/pages/home.html ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 638 |
I started clen yesterday. I am sweating all day and my HR is 150 when do my post workout treadmill. I am hot right now. Usually I see results in 6 days. Tighter and more cut. Clen 2 weeks, eca 2 weeks, clen 2 weeks. etc... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 20 |
2BulDog - Tramadol is an painreleif medicine that is equal to 1/5th the effect of morphine, but i need to say Tramadol kicks ass anyway. The main effect for lipolysis is it makes NorAdrenalin and Adrenalin rebind to their receptors to a greater extent and prolongs the hormones effects. And those a really good for lipolysis as U already know. Tramadol is also very good for dieting 'coz it makes you feel much better but noit agressive as often happens on diet. I always feel the hungerproblem is less intensive, and that's the major problem with diet... for me that is. btw eph and clen works best or maybe even ONLY on a lowcarb diet. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 484 |
ILPSOAS, I was about to ask you how this opioid affected adrenergic activity, but I looked into it and found some interesting things about Tramadol (Ultram). Tramadol is an opioid mainly, but also is a serotonin and norepi reuptake inhibitor, similar to Meridia (silbutramine). Although it is a narcotic, it is roughly 6000x's less potent than morphine in it's mu CNS activity. This is a very interesting addition to thermogenic stacks. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 140 |
Agree with Dexter. Clen for 2 wks on 2 off and when off add the ECA stack in there. Just my opinion ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 228 |
when i start to do clen/t3/eca.. i'm going to rotate the clen and eca..not ever 2 weeks but when ever my body temp. decreases. I'm going to take my temp. b4 i start and do the clen, and take my temp.... until my body temp. drops back to normal... then i'm going to do the eca and continue that until my body temp. drops.... that seems like the reasonable way!!! E2 suggested this to me... hope that makes sense! aky BTW, you can buy an electronic themometer for only $50 or so!!! Not that expensive! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 314 |
tramadol is a centrally acting synthetic analgesic compound not related to opiates. Thought to bind to opiate receptors and ihibit reuptake of norepinephrine and serotonin. I would advise against this drug because were taking about fat burning not another monkey for your back. Stick with the clen/ephedrine alternation and you'll be fine. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 222 |
Plus doesn't that shit need to be injected into your vein. Sorry I do steriods but I draw the line when it comes to i.v drug use. That's too close to a heroin junkie for me... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 106 |
I agree w/ Slopain. T3 baby. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 64 |
I agree too, T3/ECA/Clen stack is the way! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 972 |
Tramadol works very well when taken orally (as a pain reliever). No need to inject it. It is not as good as the old fashioned 600mg Aspirin/30mg Codeine combo, however it does show antidepressant characteristics as well as adrenergic stimulation. Bottom line is stick to ECA if you're not on AAS, otherwise a T3/clen/ECA combo works well. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 87 |
what is everyone's thoughts on doing hydroxycut or xenadrine after clen for weeks 3 and 4, its easier to do, no?? ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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