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JuicyGirl

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posted November 13, 2000 01:58 AM

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BigMoFo wants to use something to help with anti-aromitization. He doesn't want to use Novaldex because of the problems when taking it w/ GH. Has anyone ever used Arimidex close to a show and what were the effects?
Will Arimidex take away H2O retention?


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JuicyGirl

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posted November 13, 2000 03:32 PM

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anyone?


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Twisted_Steel

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posted November 13, 2000 03:52 PM

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Juicy, it is a stable of mine and others who have access to it. Its the most effective aromatase inhibitor out there. 1mg daily, should prove sufficient helping to reduce estrogenic bloat.

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Pharm Animal

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posted November 13, 2000 05:24 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Twisted_Steel:
<snip> 1mg daily, should prove sufficient helping to reduce estrogenic bloat.


that is the exact dosage i used for the last 4 weeks of contest prep....and i was more shredded than i have ever been...i love arimidex!!!


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WinDec

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posted November 13, 2000 06:03 PM

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TS, PA,

How much test (and/or other aromatizable compounds) were you taking at the time?

My question is motivated by the following: Ordinarily, the effects of a given anti-estrogen (e.g., Clomiphene or Nolva) would be dependent on (a) the total amount of substrate in the system and (b) the dose administered. With Arimidex, however, it is my understanding that the limiting factor becomes the total amount of aromatase enzyme present. This would imply that Arimidex's effectiveness would be dependent on dose only, and only up to a certain maximum (and independent, past that particular dose, of the AAS concentrations it is intended to remedy.) Is this accurate, in your experience?

In other words, is 1 mg per day of Arimidex, for example, enough to neutralize all aromatization, regardless of AAS levels? What were your experiences in this regard?

Thanks.


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Badkins21

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posted November 13, 2000 06:29 PM

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Bump so the bro's can reply...interesting sh*t! I just might have to get me some to add to my next pre-contest stack...

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Burnboy

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posted November 13, 2000 07:33 PM

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wouldnt 1/4 tab eod be enough?

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baza

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posted November 13, 2000 07:42 PM

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1/4 tab eod would probably work fine as well.


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Thunder

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posted November 13, 2000 08:51 PM

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Juicey your giving away all my secrets why ask this question you know that any block estrogen results in a milder increase of weight. Although since it is contest prep we're going for that dry look the arimdex will stop any aromatization and nolva the last 3 days


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MONSTROSITY

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posted November 13, 2000 08:58 PM

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1mg everyday is a waste of money. The desired results can be achieved at 1/4 - 1/2mg EOD. I have consulted with a doctor who is an authority on arimidex, he has NEVER prescribed more than 1/2mg everyday for any of his patients.............many who are world class athletes using loads of androgens. If you must insist on wasting your money than go ahead!!!

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WinDec

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posted November 13, 2000 10:02 PM

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Now hang on just a second. The clinical dose of Arimidex is 1 mg per day. That is the regimen for breast, etc. cancers. Estrogen levels reportedly fall esentially to zero at this dose. If 1/4 mg eod (or 1/2 mg ed or whatever) lead to the same result, then that would be the standard dose. The fact that it is not indicates quite clearly that there is incremental anti-estrogen benefit afforded at least up to one full mg per day.

Whether one choses to block all the estrogen in his system, or only a portion, is another question entirely. We can each make our own decision with regard to that. I am confident that 1/4 or 1/2 mg eod or ed would not be sufficient to block all estrogen for reasonably high doses of aromatizable AAS. And while zero estrogen may have its downside with respect to GH secretion, it still may represent a desirable outcome for some of us.

What interests me is, What is the dose of Arimidex at which 100% of aromatization is halted, and is that dose dependent on levels of aromatizable AAS substrate in the system? With that information, each of us can construct a strategy that fits his individual goals.

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ulter

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posted November 13, 2000 10:39 PM

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MONSTROSITY I have to agree with WinDec I just got my script and it says 1/day. The package comes in 28ct. It is to be used for 4 weeks. You are right about the fact that you can use 1/2 tab. But have you seen the size of BigMoFo? He would definately fit a "bigger than the average bear" description.

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JuicyGirl

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posted November 15, 2000 01:37 AM

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He was planning on using 1mg/day which is what was recommended by others who got great results. Does it make any difference that he has injectable vs. tablet?


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