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oompha-loompha

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posted November 12, 2000 08:16 PM

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would you guys say taking dbol alone without
stacking is a good idea. gonna be my first
cycle.(considering stacking with EQ)but if i
do dbol by itself would clomid help me
keep some gains.


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aahepp

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posted November 12, 2000 08:19 PM

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dbol is basically a starter AS. Most gains that are gained from dbol will be lost when usage stops. Clomid will help some but remeber the most increase from dbol is in the form of water, not muscle mass.


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mule

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posted November 12, 2000 08:20 PM

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d-bol by its self??

wasting your money dude


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Blackop

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posted November 12, 2000 08:26 PM

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What about if a guy were to immediately follow it up with a prohormone/trib./methoxy stack? would that help to keep the gains? but really, wouldn't dbol or naps be a good first cycle if your trying to go cheap, I mean gee $120 max. otherwise what alternative do you see?
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rohadawg

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posted November 12, 2000 08:29 PM

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60s and 70s bodybuilders used dbol alone
and had pretty good results


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mule

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posted November 12, 2000 08:31 PM

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I think that a good beginer AS is sustanon 250, 500mgs a week you get fair results and a min. on the sides, thats what most beginers are worried about, side effects and doing the stabbie, stabbie with the dart.


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oompha-loompha

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posted November 12, 2000 08:31 PM

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so do you think that adding the eq would be better to keep more solid gains


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harmonic

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posted November 12, 2000 08:32 PM

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Sust or Deca would stack great, and it would be cheaper than prophormone/trib/methoxy. D-bol alone = No permanent gains...


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aahepp

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posted November 12, 2000 08:32 PM

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True it is cheap, and true you will have good results while on it. But you will be wasting your money for whence it stops your gains go with it. Don't know about the 60's and 70's ones, wasn't into it then.


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BIG HURT

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posted November 12, 2000 08:34 PM

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Do them both.But better yet,I'd either add some test,or substitute test for the Eq

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T Bone

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posted November 12, 2000 08:40 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by harmonic:
D-bol alone = No permanent gains...


Not true. You can keep more than 50% of your gains if you eat properly and continue to train hard after your cycle.

2Thick, I need back up!

T Bone


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aahepp

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posted November 12, 2000 08:47 PM

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T...let me ask you. What do you gain when on dbol only. 85% is water weight gain. True you can build up muscle while you are on it but your body will become acustom to the dbol and after a while will lose it effectiveness. You can't keep increasing dbol doseage for at a point it stops being productive and just becomes a problem. With all that how cna your body keep 85% water gain? Not saying you can not keep some, don't hear that. But you are not being wise by just doing a dbol only cycle.


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T Bone

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posted November 12, 2000 09:07 PM

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aahepp, I personaly prefer to stack it with an anabolic too.

But, 85% water? Are you sure? I've gained 15 lbs from dbol only and kept 10. I can only speak from personal experience since I have not seen any studies on ratio of water/muscle from methandrostenolone. Have you?

1. It is an androgen.
2. It does give more strenth, hence tearing more muscle. As long as your diet is right, you should be able to make some good muscle. 3. It also supports protien alabolism.

I think dbol deserves more credit.

I do agree that you will do much better stacking it with an injectable.

T Bone


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aahepp

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posted November 12, 2000 09:19 PM

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Well during this cycle I am on now. I was doing 40mg/day of dbol, along with 1g of Sus/week and 400mg/week of deca. While I was on the dbol my weight shot up from 212 starting to 240. And as soon as week 5 hit and I stopped the dbol I went back down to 228, diet stayed the same, and traing stayed the same. Only thing I can acount for the weight lose was the stopage of the dbol. But then again this time was odd. Like I told someone else. I have done 300mg/day of suspension and never had water gain like this. It was so bad that my skin on my calves was starting to crack nd dry out from the swelling that the dbol was putting on me. Went up 4 pants sizes. Maverik knows the entire story, I was posting on their board during this entire thing. That is the reason why I said gains would leave after you stop dbol.


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T Bone

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posted November 12, 2000 09:42 PM

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Damn! Thats drastic. I guess with dbol, the more you gain the more you loose.

What week are you in now? and hows your gains going now?

T Bone


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aahepp

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posted November 12, 2000 09:44 PM

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I am starting week 7. I am getting back up to 235 now, had a shoulder set back for a little bit but other then that, going real well.


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Spunky

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posted November 12, 2000 09:48 PM

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AHH!!!!!!!!! USE THE FREAKIN SEARCH!!!!! Sorry, but I have answered I don't know how many of these posts in the past month.... I see these every week.. "Dbol only cycle" "DBOL ALONE" ................. SEARCH! I have written tons of stuff and so have others on this subject!


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lawnsaver

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posted November 12, 2000 09:49 PM

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Being its your first cycle, go with eq only.
You will respond very well to the anabolic effects of the eq. As stated many times above the d-bol will be drastically less permanent than the gains of eq. If you take 300mg for 8 weeks with clomid at the end, it will be easy to gain 10 to 15lbs of permanent muscle with a proper diet and training.


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KooL-AiD

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posted November 12, 2000 09:53 PM

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Try Deca/Sus250 Stack. Much better Gains, And you'll keep most of it.


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lawnsaver

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posted November 12, 2000 09:59 PM

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I see your name mirrors your personality.. Spunky. Relax why did you post on this thread, leave it alone. There are 17 other posts with help, I dont think he need your info.


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ThePitbull

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posted November 12, 2000 10:01 PM

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I'm sure that you probably could, keep some gains off of a d-bol only cycle. Assuming your training, diet and everything else is almost perfect. Especially the clomid.

BUT, why get big and strong for 8 weeks and then end up keeping only a small percentage of those gains that you worked so hard for.
Listen to the majority here bro, stack something with the d-bol. Test, EQ, or Deca would all be good choices. You will get greater results and end up keeping the majority of your gains.

Just my opinion.

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Spunky

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posted November 12, 2000 10:01 PM

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hmm.....


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YAKUZA

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posted November 13, 2000 12:42 AM

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lawnsaver has a good idea with the EQ. I did it alone at 300 for my first cycle and gained 15lbs. Kept every bit of it too.


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Tim7332

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posted November 13, 2000 03:27 AM

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Thats funny because I was taking a crapload of dbol. went from 205 to 225 then got off it still has sust just kicking in and flowing strong along with deca flowing strong and i went to 237. hard muscle. dbol helps build quick strength but you need a stack to build off of it.


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Fonz

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posted November 13, 2000 05:39 AM

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aahep, dbol by itself is one of the best things a newbie can take. I took 50mg a day for 6 weeks. I gained 20lbs of muscle. This was my first cycle. To limit water gain, all you have to do is limit carbs. You must be seriously demented to think dball sucks. I think it is one of the best steroids out there.


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Retabolil2

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posted November 13, 2000 05:58 AM

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I don`t think that dbol alone is a good idea. Yes, you will gain some mass (maybe a lot of mass) but you will lose much postcycle. Stack it with Eq or Deca. I prefer to use clen postcycle also.


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M1KAI

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posted November 13, 2000 07:48 AM

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Bro,
Im gonna get a couple of odd remarks on this but stack it with deca at 300mg a week...!

You will be impressed...!

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aahepp

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posted November 13, 2000 08:27 AM

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First off Fonz....Find me where I ever said dbol sucks. I have never said that. I have stated that a dbol alone cycle would not be wise, for someone wanting to keep what they got from it. And I am sure you gaind 20lbs of pure muscle. RIGHT!!! How do you know it was pure muscle??? Where did you get that water intake comes from Carbs?? What they hell are you thinking? Dude read before you post.


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