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instynct999

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posted November 11, 2000 10:07 PM

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17aa gear--inj vs oral

Is there any difference in potency or liver toxcity between injectable or oral 17aa compounds like Win, d-bol, drol???
I've heard Winny injectable less toxic, but why would this be the case it's still 17aa??
Never hear Ref-B is less toxic and that's an injectable delivery of d-bol??

Anyone know for sure, I'd think no difference mg for mg....thanks


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X-Man

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posted November 11, 2000 10:26 PM

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The reason injecting winstrol is less toxic is it skips that first pass through the liver. Even injecting it I feel is stressful on the liver just not as severe.

Also I don't think you'll find anyone on here who actually injects reforvit..that's gotta be some of the dirtiest shit around..

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cockdezl

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posted November 12, 2000 12:48 PM

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There is no difference in hepatotoxicity from the oral or injectable route. The drug must go through the liver to be metabolized and excreted. First pass metabolism only deals with how much drug reaches the bloodstream when the drug goes to the liver first, it does not change its toxicity.


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instynct999

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posted November 12, 2000 12:49 PM

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What about those 'designer' injectables of Anadrol50...would it then be less liver toxic than the oral?? Also, does anyone have any thoughts on potency variances...


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PSYCO

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posted November 12, 2000 12:55 PM

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i've always found that injecting is the more effective way to take gear. it always seems that you have to take more of the drug orally to get the same effect as injecting.


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instynct999

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posted November 12, 2000 12:57 PM

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Cockdzl--

That's what I thought as well...


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mike arci

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posted November 12, 2000 02:52 PM

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well injecting wont mean it wont have any liver alte ,u just bypass teh first phace,wish will be a less toxic but more steady rate also ,so basically is the same shit ,,


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The Shadow

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posted November 12, 2000 04:16 PM

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If you don't like shots - drink it. No difference.

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Anabolicum Mister

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posted November 12, 2000 07:56 PM

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I believe it is possible that if you drink 50mg of winny all at once it may have a more toxic effect on your liver than if you inject or split up the oral doses. It would be equivalent to taking 25 x 2mg winstrol tabs at once. If you are going to drink, I suggest you split the doses.


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