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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 79 |
First ever cycle. I have been into BB for 9 years, Have made good gains in past, But am looking to get big. I have done the research and am looking at a legit source. First of. I am 24 5'9" 174lbs 16% BF. I hit the weights after a 3 month break. and am hitting them for a few weeks. Then I want to dive into it. I was wondering what you guys thought about my first cycle. I would like to use Deca & Dbol. I am looking to break the 200lb mark. But keep 90% of the gains after the cycle. So I was wondering if anyone is up to the task with a good cycle? Keeping in mind obvious side effects. through in what you think will acheive my results. I do not want to be on too long. and I will re -cycle Size being the most important factor. Thanks guys.     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
Bump, Come on guys. I know it is friday nite. But I have nothing better to do  Besides I went out for a while on my Street bike and got nailed by the pigs. SO I came back and sat down where I would be safe.  Bastards caught me without my ownership with me. 110$ Canadian that won't be going towards gear. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 233 |
Sus 250-500mg/week EQ 300mg/week or Deca 400mg/week whinny 50mg/day With them items you should be albe to keep most of your gains. No dbol because what you gain in size and weight is water and most will be lost. Very mild cycle, but should produce good gains, as long as the eating and training are right. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 88 |
Deca and D-bol are a great cycle, but you might consider adding at least 300mg test Cyp or enathanate. At least for me I suffer deca dick, if I don't shot Test with the Deca / D-bol. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
What about this?? Week--Sust--Deca--Dbol--Proviron--Clomid
Is this over doing it? would it be cost effective? What would this cost someone with sources? Anyone able to tally the bill up? [This message has been edited by KooL-AiD (edited November 11, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 66 |
Sorry to here about the ticket!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 233 |
Kool-aid that is a good cycle, but for some that has about 4 cycles under their belt. A little strong for te first timer. Half the doseages there would be fine for you. But you said you wanted to keep the gains. Thats why no dbol. You will see great improvment but then once the dbol stops your gains from that will leave also. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
What about 500 of Sus ? Bump di de Bump Bump | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 502 |
That should be enough. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
Bump me up.. Come on guys, I have yet seen a Good Virgin Cycle. I have searched. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
Week--Sust--Deca--Proviron--Clomid 1------500-------------------50EOD 2------500-------------------50EOD 3------500----400------------50EOD 4------500----400------------50EOD 5------500----400------------50EOD 6------500----400------------50EOD 7------500----400------------50EOD 8------500----400------------50EOD 9------500----400------50ED--50EOD 10-----500----400------50ED--50EOD 11------------400------50ED--50EOD 12------------400------50ED--100ED 13---------------------50ED--50ED 14---------------------50ED--50ED 15---------------------50ED------ How is that looking??? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Vey nice! However, I wouldn't start the proviron until week 11 at the earliest. Proviron binds to anrogen receptors Thus you body will not be able to utilize the full amount of testosterone in your cycle. Basicly it will block some of the test from being used...no good. I really wouldn't use it at all. Any particular reason you have it in there? The rest of you cycle looks great except for the proviron. Have nolvadex on hand and go with your clomid and the nuts should be fine. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Beezers (edited November 11, 2000).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
OOH...And taper the deca at the end of the cycle. Week 11-300, Week 12-200 ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
Week--Sust--Deca----Clomid 1------500-----------50EOD 2------500-----------50EOD 3------500----400----50EOD 4------500----400----50EOD 5------500----400----50EOD 6------500----400----50EOD 7------500----400----50EOD 8------500----400----50EOD 9------500----400----50EOD 10-----500----400----50EOD 11------------300----50EOD 12------------200----100ED 13-------------------50ED 14-------------------50ED
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 193 |
GoodLuck with your cycle bro....I like Deca to... ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 204 |
I would run the decca and the sus 250 at the same time. If this is your first time using sus your ass might be a bit sore, the decca will help combat this. Also decca stays active for about 12 days after injection so if you end them togeather your system will be cleared around the same time. ( sus has a half life of about 3-4 weeks) I did this exact cycle with no provarion and ran the decca side by side with the sus and gained 20lBS and kept most of it......The first shot I took was just sus on mon and I was hurting alot,,,,the decca helped 100% in the next shot dull the pain in following days foz | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 576 |
Very good cycle. The first one was a little extreme for a guy with your experience, size and age. Give it time. Those receptors are brand new. The AS are just an ingredient, bro, you'll need to eat, eat, eat, and make sure you get at least 200grams of protien a day with that cycle. I don't think you need the clomid EOD during the cycle. If anything it will lower your results. If you want Nalvo, might be a better choice, EOD starting the 3rd or 4th week of your cycle and start the clomid about 2-3 weeks after the last shot of sus. I would go 50mg eod for about 21 days from there with the clomid, and presto, your 15-25lbs larger and your nuts work. . .good luck. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
Week--Sust--Deca----Clomid 1------500----------- 2------500----------- 3------500----400---- 4------500----400---- 5------500----400---- 6------500----400---- 7------500----400---- 8------500----400---- 9------500----400---- 10-----500----400---- 11------------300---- 12------------200----50ED 13-------------------50ED 14-------------------50ED Any other suggestions.. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
Bump it up, Lest we forget, for all the Canadians out there. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
I agree about the clomid. Call me a f**k'n nut, but I find clomid decreases my strength due to the lack of water retention. For that reason I would use it only at the end. It won't inhibit your gains but it did inhibit my strength. I beleive you need that water in your body. You won't be bloated forever. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
Week--Sust--Deca----Clomid 1------500----------- 2------500----------- 3------500----400---- 4------500----400---- 5------500----400---- 6------500----400---- 7------500----400---- 8------500----400---- 9------500----400---- 10-----500----400---- 11------------300---100ED 12------------200----50ED 13-------------------50ED 14-------------------50ED So Far that is the best I have come up with.. Also been told to keep Nolvadex handy. If anyone can refine it any better please do.. Thanks to all your help so far. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 85 |
hey, i too am a novice and i am gonna do a virgin cycle this was what i was gonna do: aratest 500mg pr week for 10 weeks also thinking of adding fina at week 6 to end ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
Well from what was said about my cycle. Dbol is not needed. Unless you are not looking to keep all your gains. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1161 |
Agree with you kool one.. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
Now, on weeks 3-10 can I mix the Deca & Sus in one shot, or would it be better to do seperate in diff regions.? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 279 |
Why are you starting the deca 3 weeks after the sust??? yes you should mix them together..as somebody has already stated..sust alone can hurt like a bitch.. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
Well.. The Sus takes 2 weeks to start. So instead of wasting the Deca by itself. I figure do the Sus for 2 weeks, When it starts working through in the Deca. Tell me if I am wrong?
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
Bump | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
Week 1-10 500mg Sus Week 2-10 400mg Deca Week 11 300mg Deca, 100mg Clomid ED Week 12 200mg Deca, 50mg Clomid ED Week 13 50mg Clomid ED
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posted November 10, 2000 08:53 PM
