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BULLETIN BOARD BOB

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posted November 10, 2000 04:00 PM

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I'm not ready to do a cycle just yet, but I was thinking of using 50 mgs. of Proviron per day to bust through a plateau...it would mainly be for the increased strength. I was thinking about 3 weeks just to get me past a couple sticking points. What do you guys think? Good idea or bad?


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Twisted_Steel

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posted November 10, 2000 04:03 PM

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why?

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BULLETIN BOARD BOB

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posted November 10, 2000 04:45 PM

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Like I said, for the increased strength. Just for a small boost.

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BULLETIN BOARD BOB

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posted November 10, 2000 06:47 PM

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Can anyone here give me an answer?


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CLEMDOG

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posted November 10, 2000 06:54 PM

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I'm sure it would do something over nothing at all, but really it would be kinda pointless. I'm not very familiar with proviron so I really cant help more.


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someguy

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posted November 10, 2000 07:01 PM

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Is that going to do anything? I thought it was only used against water during a cycle...and as a anti-estrogen...

Why not do a primo only cycle...or deca only...


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CN1

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posted November 10, 2000 07:11 PM

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hey the suggested dose is two to three pills two to three times a day, I say take two in the morning and two about 3 hours before you train, its suppose to start working in 4 hours, so when I take them I take once a week, 5 in the morn, and 5 in the afternoon.


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BULLETIN BOARD BOB

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posted November 10, 2000 07:30 PM

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Well the reason I'm not going to do a primo or deca cycle is 'cause I'd rather save my receptors for something good. But wouldn't the increased test/ decreased est. ratio increase strength? Or no....?


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CLEMDOG

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posted November 10, 2000 07:32 PM

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it may, but it should harden you up some, remove some subq water retention.


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Beezers

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posted November 10, 2000 07:40 PM

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No bro. It would be like using clomid to increase strength and muscle gains. That is not the purpose of these types of drugs. In fact I find clomid actually makes me weeker due to the lack of water retention. I havn't used proviron but I shall assume it would be the same principal. They don't increase you test all that significantly if your body is already running at full throttle. These drugs help restore the HPTA after a cycle. Basicly they get all systems running at normal power. So if the HPTA is running on all cylenders then they really won't do a damned thing for you except reduce water weight and retention, which like I said made me WEAKER. It won't help you break through a plateue. Eat more or train differently for this. Drugs like proviron, clomid, nolvadex, and armidex are not anabolic androgenic steroids.

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KODIAK99

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posted November 10, 2000 08:28 PM

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Bro, I would read this post carefully. Do a little research. Your idea is biochemically a wrong assumption. You may infact impede your progress.

PROVIRON

Proviron, or mesterolone, is a popular antiestrogen used by bodybuilders. It acts as an antiaromatase, which means it prevents the aromatization of steroids into estrogen. Proviron is frequently used by athletes on heavy cycles of steroids to prevent gynecomastia. It is also favored by competitive bodybuilders since a lower estrogen level corresponds with increased muscle hardness and lower water retention.One or two 25 mg per day should be sufficient to prevent gynecomastia. Proviron can also be combined with Nolvadex(tamoxifen citrate) if needed. Side effects are extremely rare with dosages under 100 mg per day.

One major problem with Proviron is that it tends to reduce the gains made from a cycle. This is due to the fact that Proviron is an androgen and therefore binds to androgen receptor sites within the body. With Proviron binding to androgen receptor sites, the other steroids present in the body (androgens) are blocked out and unable to take effect. Consequently, many athletes prefer to keep the intake of Proviron at its minimum effective dosage in order to make sufficient gains while still preventing gynecomastia.

Proviron is usually fairly easy to obtain on the black market. Most versions are manufactured by Schering and cost about $1-$2 per 25 mg tab. Proviron can come in push-through strips or small glass vials. There is currently no need to worry about authenticity when buying Proviron since no counterfeits of this product are known exist.

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mike arci

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posted November 11, 2000 02:51 AM

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yeah man, really iff u really want to take a placebo put away ur proviron 50, and just eat a box off orio coockies every day for 6 weeks u will at least get some size here and save the proviron wend u really need it ,


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GetHuge

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posted November 11, 2000 09:35 AM

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Proviron is inactive in muscle tissue. I don't care if you take 100 pills a day, you won't make any gains from the cycle and you may slightly reduce your Test production since its an androgen.


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BigWh1tey

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posted November 11, 2000 11:28 AM

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Use the search tool.
AND to answer your question .. NO


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KooL-AiD

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posted November 11, 2000 11:30 AM

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I was thinking of taking 50Mg of Flintstones Vitamins per day. I should get huge right..

j/k.


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BULLETIN BOARD BOB

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posted November 11, 2000 12:08 PM

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Thanks to those who had something constructive and serious to say.


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Thick

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posted November 11, 2000 12:34 PM

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I did Proviron By its self Long time ago when I was right outta high school, I got my hands on some, ths was before it was widely known about. I got really hard off of it, and my sex drive was High for awhile I did get a little stronger but, The only reason I did proviron alone was by mistake. I would just wait till you get some other stuff, and keep the pro for later.


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KooL-AiD

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posted November 11, 2000 01:09 PM

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Seriously,

Check out Chemical Wizardry and see Proviron. It is not used to gain. It is used to prevent gyno and other side effects.


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Donald Smoot

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posted November 11, 2000 02:24 PM

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From reading your line"I want to save my receptors for something good" I get the impression that you are a strong believer in the idea(classic Duchaine) that states "Your first cycle will always be your best". There was probably some truth in this if you are an advanced body builder who has been tutored directly by Mr. Duchaine.
However I do not think that the logic of Proviron use in this case is sound.
Dr. Smoot would suggest 3 pellets of dmso/tren applied twice/day for 3 days. Kill yourself in the gym on day 1, and rest 2 and 3. Eat all the time. This would give you the small boost you hope from proviron, without the cost or trouble of a real cycle.
You could perhaps even still call yourself a virgin, although I suggest you get married wearing yellow.


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