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ming

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posted November 10, 2000 02:41 PM

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ive got a FRIEND thats wants to party. HE is on A.S. and wants to roll this weekend.
what do you suggest my FRIEND do?
will it hurt his cycle?
thanks!


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glazed_donutz

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posted November 10, 2000 02:45 PM

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this question has been asked quite a bit this is why people think gear is bad or a stepping stone or gate way to other drugs. if your friend must roll let him roll but after he comes down loss of appetite and motivation for training for few days. I would not recommend it but different strokes for different folks. my .02 worth


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the mechanic

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posted November 10, 2000 02:45 PM

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Tell your "friend" he is an ass even to do x.
What does he want to do, improve his body or screw it up ?

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slim_shady

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posted November 10, 2000 03:48 PM

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x affects the serotonin receptors ... which is what results in that euphoric feeling many get. the physical drain it does on the body is what your "friend" will suffer from (decreased apetite, fatigue for a day or two, etc)...if I was spending time, money, and energy on AS, I would just relax and not do anything to take away from possible gains.

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Mr H

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posted November 10, 2000 03:54 PM

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Amen Slim!

I completely stop everything while on.

No drugs, no drinking- just some GHB cause I believe it puts the muscles into sleep mode and provides more growth. But that's just me


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Kingwinny

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posted November 10, 2000 03:59 PM

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on behalf of one of my friends, i could tell u its ok to drop a hit of x. He pops three or four at a club every weekend. Of course i think it is a bad idea, but the gains he got say that it all depends on the person. Me for example, i would never because the next day after dropin 1 i feel like complete shit. Others may be able to handle it better. Theres my .02 hope he makes the right decision to stay off it.

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rainhorn

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posted November 10, 2000 04:01 PM

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why use this shit anyway?


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hayesjones

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posted November 10, 2000 04:02 PM

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tell him not to take it and instead send it to me asap.


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ming

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posted November 10, 2000 04:07 PM

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i see your points. i will tell him that. however, i know he has really busted his ass, and has really been strict in not doing anything he shouldn't. not even a sip of beer. and he really wants to let loose. thanks for your insights. HE appreciates it.


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AZtallguy

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posted November 10, 2000 04:38 PM

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drugs are bad. big no no


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thesuperstar

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posted November 10, 2000 04:47 PM

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tell your friend to roll, but before he does tell him to send me all hisA.S., i will take care of the rest.

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AnaBoliC MiniSteR

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posted November 10, 2000 04:59 PM

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I agree with Mr H I used to roll all the time up tp 10 pills a night.. But when cycling as I now am i dont even touch X, Weed , or Alcochol.. My .02 tell your freind to remeber how hard work it is to build up his body before he throws it away for a night of rolling


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mule

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posted November 10, 2000 06:56 PM

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SAY NO TO DRUGS!!!

AT LEAST ONES THAT DON"T MAKE YOUR MUSCLES GROW


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CN1

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posted November 10, 2000 07:06 PM

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man x will fry your head like putting your brain in a blender, dont do it, and tell your friend he should stick to the gym instead of the drug scene, man I know its hard to say no, I use to do ex for 12 weeks straight, tell him dont do it.


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MR.?

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posted November 10, 2000 07:08 PM

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This question has been asked alot lately. Also a lot of questions on the board deal with alcohol consumption while on a cycle. What I dont understand is why a person would you do drugs like x, weed and any other party drug you can think of. The reason why people take AS is to better there bodies and mind. extasy and drinking can only slow your gains. Some people talk about have a good diet but finish there days with a six pack and a blunt. Building a great body and mind takes full dedication and concentration. I feel a persons commitment must include discipline and avoid substances that dont benefit the body in any way. Just my 2 cents.


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CLEMDOG

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posted November 10, 2000 07:09 PM

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up to 10 pills in 1 night!? Wholy shit. There is up to a certain amount that will do no good due to the fact that you only have so much serotonin to be released.


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forgotten219

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posted November 10, 2000 07:32 PM

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I rolled a couple times when I was on. I didn't want to lift the next day and didn't have an appetite. If he wants to do it I guess he could but I think it's a little counter productive. P.S. I wouldn't recomend doing a lot of that stuff.


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ManOSteele

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posted November 10, 2000 11:39 PM

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Xtacy...I do not judge. I have done it before, but not while I am training. My best friends does it every weekend and he is massive. Still I am not advocating it...I am sumply saying it is your choice. Everyone has there own thing...

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Jay Z

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posted November 11, 2000 12:22 AM

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just drink beer and screw the x...

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Nexus 6

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posted November 11, 2000 12:24 PM

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Hey ming,

If your friend is determined to take Ecstasy, this is how it is done:

1. Do not train on the day you will drop the E. You will impede the recovery process
2. You will need to shoot 1000mg B12 or even better a 1000mg B1,6,12 shot about 6 hours before taking the E. E will seriously deplete B12 which gives you the wasted feeling the day after.
3. Make sure you eat at least every 5 hours while you are up. I know it is the last thing you will feel like doing but a protein drink or Myoplex is perfect for these times. (Maybe that is what Bill invested them for!)
4. Do not take any downers to sleep. Let the E wear off naturally.
5. Following the above you should hardly have any lethargy the following day but no matter how you feel get back in the gym and do a light workout. This will kick start the recovery process.
6. Drink plenty of water all day BEFORE you take the E then slow right down to about a glass every hour while you are up. No alcohol.
7. 50mg of 5HTP taken the following night will stop your serotonin levels dropping and causing any depression.
8. Know what you are taking! Make sure you are taking good E. DO NOT PUT SHIT IN YOUR BODY. Take the minimum amount you need to have a great night and be smart when taking ANY type of drug.
9. Look after your friends. They may not be able to handle it as well as you can.


This information is to help you to maintain your gains while taking E and for your general safety. Whether or not you exercise your freedom to take drugs is your personal choice. I have no opinion either way.

Take care,

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posted November 12, 2000 02:07 PM

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delray

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posted November 12, 2000 02:16 PM

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I think Nexus nailed it. On a simpler plan, drink plenty of water all night. If I had to choose between drinking alcohol or X while on a cycle I would X. Less toxic to the liver/kidneys. Also, much better chance of working off that rock-hard juice hard-on when your rolling. Just drink water and send her home early so you can eat a big breakfast.

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Bubba

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I thought X was hard on your kidney's. In that case it would be a double edged sword in my eyes. Recently some mother of three keeled over and died after a night of rolling. It said her kidneys couldn't take it and shut down. Something to think about.


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NJbigtime

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posted November 12, 2000 02:38 PM

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Hey, i've done e a few times. To be honest it didn't effectme that much the few days after. However, i didn't really feel like lifiting the next day. And i was alittle depressed the next day as well.

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Bignick12345

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posted November 13, 2000 08:58 AM

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Man,
E really affects me bad the next day. Until about 5 pm the following day I feel really depressed, almost like crying all day long. Like nothing makes me happy.
I really dont think Im gonna use anymore cause I feel like so much shit the next day.
Nick


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Daeo

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posted November 13, 2000 01:05 PM

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I'm with Mr? on this one. If you're going to make the decision to take AS you had better be serious and have some goals in mind. If you don't have the discipline to stop drinking/smoking weed/doing x for 8 weeks you shouldn't be doing steriods. I know some people say that a few beers a week won't hurt. Usually though people don't stop at a few beers. Also you don't know what you would have gained without those drinks or x because you never gained it. I think this is some of the reason that steroids gets a bad rap. People misuse their bodies then when a cause is looked for steroids are blamed. Why would you waste any time on your cycle at all for a few hours of fun. There will be plenty of time to have it after your cycle ends.


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posted November 13, 2000 04:15 PM

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Nexus 6,

I think you mean 1000mcg and not 1000mg. There is a big difference.

I think you might just die from 1000mg of B12.


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lethal59

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posted November 14, 2000 12:08 AM

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Let me put it this way. It's probably not the best idea in the world, but my girl loves the shit and I love being on the shit with her so...
I've gotten away with it no problems so far.
And as for lifting the next day. Just go and lift even if you don't feel like it. I only do it if I have off the next day.


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Nexus 6

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posted November 14, 2000 12:22 AM

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Thanks 2Thick,

It should have read 1000mcg B12.

Nex

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posted November 14, 2000 12:31 AM

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If I ever take it, its on a night and I know the next day is an off day. The next day I take up to 400mg of 5-htp and a double dose of my multis. I drink tons of water during and the next day. I take milk thistle and evening pr oil and about 3g of vitimin c. Sunday is my day of rest and thats what I do. I also make sure I have GHB that night. I know X has a bad rap, but Alchohol is the worst. I see so many fights and You cant drive. X makes me feel good and my agression is on vacation.

Remember anything in excess is bad for you...Moderation!!!!!!


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