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 Twisted_Steel Cycle Compostion for: 20 yearold Ectomorphic Novice!
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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The following cycle had been constucted for a friend of mine whom I train with regularly. "Shawn" is a 20 yearold 170lb athlete. Body composition is that of an ectomorph. Shawn also has an hyperactive thyroid which makes it very difficult for him to pack on desired weight! This is "Shawns" first introduction to chemical supplementation. It will strictly follow my low dose periodized approach toward anabolic/androgenic steroid use. I am some what frustrated with the EZBoard format, it is very difficult for me to import my work from Word/Excel onto this format. Therefore I have to rewrite my work, which annoys the shit out of me, so please excuse this rudamentary composition. Week1: Proviron 50mg ED ------------------      | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 725 |
It looks small to me, but you know that. Please let us know how it works, maybe you will prove your point. ------------------ "Obsession is passion. Use it. Make it your strength." -by Puc | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 685 |
TS, I know you posted awhile back a similar cycle. Can you explain again the reason for starting the proviron a week or two before? Thanks.. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1062 |
He will make good gains but could make even better gains on double the dose. At 500mg of sust or 400mg of Deca it would still be considered moderate use in my opinion. Why the dbol at the end? I know it stacks well with Deca but why at the end? Let us know the results. I am betting he can gain 15-20lbs from his starting point. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1146 |
Dosing volume is relative to numerous issues. Its unfortunate many people assume that doses exceeding 500mg of any particular compound are needed for growth. The sad thing is that all to often people short change their potential by not using the smallest most efficient dosing plan possible. Call me a Raging empiricist , but I don't like ambiguity or uncertainty, therefore myself and those I coorespond with are advised to begin anabolic supplementation with low doses, prioritizing training and diet before the drugs. Thats one huge pile of bullshit, but I digress. I'll report the outcomes. There are a couple Elite Fitness contributors training with me over the winter. This should be fun. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Twisted_Steel (edited November 10, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1146 |
Ill tackle the proviron issue first then explain the addition of dianabol. As many of you know the introduction of androgens within the human body isn't a cut and dry process. There are numerous homonal and genetic imediments which can come into play within the indivdual. Many of this impediments very and quite often can not be predicted or in some cases controled. One of those impediments however can be neutralized through the introduction of the anti-estrogen Proviron. Proviron is a non-aromatizing androgen which when introduced one to two weeks prior to the onset of anabolic/androgenic supplementation effectivly bonds with Plasma cells. Sex Hormone Binding Globulin possesses a high binding affinty for androgens. It effectivly competes with tissue cells for unbound androgens within the blood. Once this happens free flowing androgens beome inert. This phenomenon effectivly reduces the potency of the atheltes cycle. We want to occupy as many of those plasma cells as possible. By doing this we effectivly potentate the cycle, allowing more free flowing testosterone to interact with precious tissu cells, thus we realize a greatER state of anabolism, increased nitrogen retention, equaling growth. Now, the dianbol is a common sense soloution to the stagnation effect many of us realize when we supplement. Obviously the introduction of Anbolic Androgenic steroids is one of many proper stimuli needed to promote muscular hypertrophy, however the body's adaptation ability superceedes the effectivity of any one particular stimuli. As time passes so does the effect of the particular stimulous. Therefore, you notice the periodized approach I on occasion will advocate for certain persons. "Shawn" is the classic hard gainer. The 6 weeks of sustanon 250 will translate into 9 weeks of nicely elevated testosteron levels. However, those levels will begin to subside at week 7. Therefore, to combat the stagnation effect that would generally occur im introducing a modest stack composed of dianabol and deca. Those of you familier with the effects these two drugs promote when used together realize the powerFUL synergistic effect they have. We have effectivly introduced in theory new stimuli in the form of two new drugs.
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1146 |
fast moving bullshit infested board. geez ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 622 |
I think you blew them all away with your great writing ability, seriously, you know how to put your thoughts into writing very precisely. The cycle and the concepts behind it look very good. | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 5383 |
TS your post was excellent and exactly on, he should do well on the cycle, although, i understand your desire to add the dbol in at the end of the cycle i think he would be much better adding in another drug such as winstrol or fina. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 44 |
I found this on the web and he disputes what you are saying Twisted Steel. Any rebuttal? Paul Cribb, D.H.Sci. HMS Testosterone circulates in plasma largely bound to plasma proteins, primarily albumin and testosterone binding-globulin (TeBG). This is the sex hormone binding globulin you are referring to. TeBG is a b-globulin composed of nonidentical subunits, about 95 000 Daltons (a pretty big, complex molecule). In men, only about 2% of testosterone is unbound in vitro tests of peripheral blood where, 44% is bound to TeBG and 54% is bound to albumin. Albumin has about 1000-fold lower affinity for testosterone but about 1000-fold greater binding capacity, so basically the affinity product is similar. The proportion of testosterone (or estrogen for that matter) bound to the TeBG fraction is proportional to its concentration. However, the amount of hormone available for entry into cells depends on the given organ, as a function of capillary transit time, dissociation rate from the binding protein and the endothelial membrane permeability. Interestingly, studies of invivo tissue delivery of testosterone show nearly all of the albumin bound testosterone is actually available for brain uptake. Also interesting is that estrogen disassociates from TeGB much faster than testosterone and TeBG levels are about one-third in men what they are in women. In healthy men, (men with intact hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis) any increase or decrease in TeBG levels does not affect tissue delivery of testosterone in the steady state. In fact, any change in levels of TeBG have a much more profound affect on estrogen delivery. Therefore as you can see, there are so many variables to take into account and, this mechanism of testosterone delivery to tissues is such a tightly regulated process. Even if you could magically increase free testosterone levels for prolonged periods of time this actually appears to have little effect in the whole scheme of things. The irony is also that measurement of free or bioactive hormones via latest technology- radioimmunoassays or even the whiz bang immunometric assays only give an indication, or clue, to the bioactivity of the hormone. These tests only measure the first step of hormonal action - the binding of the protein to the receptor, they do not assess the affects of interactions in generating a second messenger or initiating a specific response. I am only touching on the science here, however you get the picture that this idea of these "experts" is a "crock of shit" or, if in fact you had some way of achieving this, you would probably end up with higher estrogen levels than a 6 month pregnant woman! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 47 |
If this is your first cycle why dont you keep it simple. 250 sust a wwek for 8 weeks. clomid at the end. |
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posted November 10, 2000 10:32 AM
