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 How dangerous is this
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 241 |
I have a buddy, yes not me, that is a serious martial artist (he teaches Brazilian Jujitsu). He is extremely active in all regards - weights, cardio, and martial arts. He is 44 and and has been off a 5 months sust cycle for 2 months now, he wasn't doing that much when on, a shot a week. He is crashing and has no vigor for anything, he is having problems in the erectile department as well. I tell him it is natural and they will subside but 2 things have happened to him, 1) He can't wait (doesn't want to) 2) He got used to the feeling of being on and all the perks that come with it and now he doesn't want to go back to being a mere mortal. To the question. He wants to do 1 sust shot every 2 weeks for at least a year, he isn't looking to get huge or strong just that extra lift this will give him. Can I get some honest feedback on the dangers of this and the possible irreversible implications of this course of action. He won't wait long unless I can convince him otherwise. Thanks     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 551 |
He might be going thru male menopause, but I think its a crash. 5 months on test is horrible. you only produce about 7mg a day naturally and he had 5 times that amount. He should try a shot of hcg to get his test going and follow with 3 weeks of clomid to bring his natural test level back. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 254 |
Definately what lawnsaver said.......ASAP!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 241 |
Yes I realize that with the clomid and other post cycle methods but how about what he wants to do in regards to the one shot every 2 weeks for a year? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 150 |
It seems to me that his body would not return to the normal axis even on a shot every other week. It is also probably that one could not take a shot every two weeks. I am just saying that for myself, I need to either be on or off. I can't do one just partially. It is hard on me mentally. I will just want to hit it hard again. Go the clomid route, or at least switch drugs. B True | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 254 |
yeah...tell him there is a possibility that he will be on test therapy for the rest of his life because he supressed his own test for so long that it won't come back to normal | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 44 |
tell him to check with a Dr. test replacement is common for a 44 year old i'm sure it must be safe since it's common for Dr.s to prescribe this | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 241 |
In regards to the therapy replacement from the doctor(I guess the patch). What is the difference to the body as far as risks and harm compared to doing self prescribed test therapy(Test shots bi weekly). | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1057 |
He will be fine taking 250mg every other week and will have little to no side effects even long term. He must realize that he probably will not be able to have children (he is 44 so this probably doesn't concern him) and that he will have to keep shooting for the rest of his life since his HPTA will probably never go back to normal. If he wants good results he should stick to cycling because this way he will get much better gains. I would suggest taking clomid for 3-4 weeks and maybe doing a cycle in another month. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 529 |
This guy has problems. I think lawnsaver has the basic answer. He should probably go see a physician. No offense to the board members with good advice. He needs an endorinologist to test his blood and see what needs to be changed/added/subtracted to return his body to normal hormone levels. HCG and clomid might be the answer for this guy but they might not. A good doctor will also beable to asses his emotional problems and possibly refer him to a psychiatrist. I think that people with his training and discipline might be open to this more conventional approach. I wish you luck bro, and if he ever has a bout of the rage, I would get away quickly. . .GL | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 241 |
Thanks guys for responses. Dorian Yates just had a kid and I'm sure plenty of other pro body builders have had children as well. So at such a low dosage of a shot every other week will this really not be irreversible? I guess that is what I'm really after here, not what he should do to get back to normal, I have told him that. On a side note he doesn't ever plan to have children. |
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posted November 10, 2000 01:30 AM