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GETTN'BIG

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posted November 09, 2000 03:29 PM

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help me out with planning out my short cycles. i can get some prop and stanzolol. not to sure about the dosages though. do i need clomid? also do you reccommend anything else to use. thanks


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Beezers

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posted November 09, 2000 07:22 PM

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Prop-100mg eod
winny-50mg ed or 100mg eod or on the lower end 50mg eod.

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Beezers

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posted November 09, 2000 07:23 PM

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For a short cycle(I don't know exactly what you're going for) maybe anavar. Clomid is always a good idea.

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Monster

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posted November 09, 2000 08:14 PM

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You have TONS of options. Just lear about deesterification rates and youll be good. Plan for everything to be clear of your system in 4 weeks (or whatever).
You could use sustanon on the first day then no more and it would be clear in 4 weeks time. Then add in quick acting stuff. The last week or two just stick with prop EOD (100mg mabye) with the last shot about 2 or 3 days shy of the 4 week mark. At 4 weeks youll be clean.
You wont NEED clomid, but it wouldnt kill you. Its best to always have clomid and the best anti-estrogen you can find/afford on hand at all times. You never know when gyno or edema and high blood pressure will rear its ugly head!
The problem I had with short cycles is that your diet has to be 100% on the entire time. A slip up for one day is a big fuck up when youre only going 4 weeks. But its an option, and mabye it'll work out for you.
To me, 5,000 - 6,000 calories is hard to maintain day in and day out. So if I miss a day here and there, Id rather have it not affect much in the long run. I felt like with 4 weeks as my whole cycle, one missed day was a big deal... but Ive been accused of being insane on several occaisions....

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GETTN'BIG

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posted November 10, 2000 04:39 AM

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thanks alot guys i appreciate the info. how much should i expect to oay for a winny prop cycle, dont wanna get ripped


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GETTN'BIG

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posted November 10, 2000 06:49 PM

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come on guys iknow someone has their two cents to put in on this subject


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KODIAK99

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posted November 10, 2000 08:08 PM

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bump


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Beezers

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posted November 10, 2000 08:35 PM

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Bro we can't tell you how much you are going to gain. That is strictly up to you. There are too many variables that come in to play in determining cycle success. Diet, training, rest, dosage, and the biggest factor, genetics, all play vital roles in determining ones gains. Only you can manipulate your body while on the cycle. That is what will determine your gains.

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GETTN'BIG

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posted November 11, 2000 05:12 PM

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bump


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the mechanic

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posted November 11, 2000 05:15 PM

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Gettn big, I am about 20 mins north of you, give me an email

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rohadawg

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posted November 11, 2000 05:25 PM

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just overload on food and creatine
and you'll be fine


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KooL-AiD

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posted November 11, 2000 05:33 PM

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In my opinion Genetics don't always mean shit.

You can take a overweight male, slap him on a nutrition plan & Work out schedule, and he'll look as good as any other builder.

I think it has more to do with the state the body is in. When he goes to use the cycle.


I have known lots of people that have bad metabolism since birth, kick it and end up ripped. Just meant they had to alter their diet of Twinkies & Beer.


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Rugby

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If i were to do a series of short cycles this is what i would do:
wk---prop----dbol
1-----1g--------50mg
2-----800mg--45mg
3-----700mg--40mg
4-----600mg--35mg
week 6-9 "off": primo at 300mg/wk
week 10-13 new cycle

wk---suspension---Durabolin
10----700mg-----------600mg
11----700mg-----------600mg
12----600mg-----------600mg
13----500mg-----------500mg

week 14-17 "off" eq at 300mg/wk and anavar at 20mg/wk

wk---prop----winny
1----1g--------50mg every day
2---800mg---50mg every day
3---700mg---50mg eod
4---600mg---50mg eod

then follow up with 5 weeks of fina at 75-150mg eod...


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GETTN'BIG

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posted November 12, 2000 05:33 PM

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keep it coming guys, thanks


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