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gina0

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posted November 09, 2000 09:31 AM

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This guy Christopher. I order from him before and had no problems. Then this time I make a larger order and he emails me asking me for the tracking #. I tell him I did not use one. He says he only accepts funds with tracking #. I tell him that I WOULD have done that but I was never told this. Plus why would I think I had to especially since I used him before with no tracking #. Of Course now he is saying he has not recieve funds. I don't know I am sure it got there. Do you know what the chance of a letter not getting to its destination, it is such a small number there is not even a formula. I really hope this Chris guys does not screw me. I am sure that he must have recieve funds. Why would I lie to him. To all be careful with this guy.

Trevor


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Jae

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posted November 09, 2000 09:37 AM

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your second post and you are writing a scammer thread already? Did you read the newbie post? You could have saved yourself some trouble bro.


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Jae

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posted November 09, 2000 09:37 AM

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Dude, there is a list of known scammers out there, true that it may not cover everyone, but it is worth asking a mod about.


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gina0

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posted November 09, 2000 10:12 AM

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Bro I hear you. I have been on board for over a year, but never posted. At least I did note post the address or his email on this thread. I know for a fact that I have been talking to a guy with an email [email protected], and he said they tryed the same thing with him. I am hear to say I feel betrayed, i would not try to say I sent funds if I did not. I am an honest guy, but I am not so sure about this Christoper guy. All I can do is hope that Chris sents goods or I can try to call the Dr. I really hope it does not have to come to that.

Anyone else having the same problem with this guy, please email me.

Trevor
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madbomber31

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posted November 09, 2000 10:26 AM

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PRINCESS74???? DUDE... I DONT WANNA KNOW


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gina0

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posted November 09, 2000 10:28 AM

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Dude, it is for security resons. Please


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Slopain

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posted November 09, 2000 10:30 AM

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If he didnt state it in his list or in his email you may have a point, but as far as COMMON SENSE: What kind of half wit would send all their cash without a tracking #?? do you know it only costs .35 cents???

I don't understand why people like to just throw there money away.

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*B*

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posted November 09, 2000 10:37 AM

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Like Slopain said (kinda), ALWAYS ALWAYS use a tracking number. A little late for this episode but for the future ALWAYS use a tracking number........


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gina0

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posted November 09, 2000 11:36 AM

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I hear what you guys are saying, but I did not use tracking #, because I though he might think I was trying to set him up or something. Again all he had to do was tell me what to do, I am not the source he is, therefore he should let me know what he want me to do. I agree I should not have sent without trackin #, but he never said too. I really hope he fix the problem in some way. I hope, and PRAY. Come on Chris don't rip me off.


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Slopain

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posted November 09, 2000 11:39 AM

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If thats his name you should edit that shit out. Why would tracking be a set up? It need no signature at all and no info at all, all they do is stick a barcode on the package and its tracked when it leaves when it arrives and when its delivered.

I would hold my own self responsible in this situation, you shouldnt have to be told to watch your own money.

This may sound harsh but I am tired of seeing people waist their money on scammers or improper methods. Good luck, I hope you you recieve or are able to work something out.

Slopain


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Bubba

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posted November 09, 2000 11:58 AM

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There has been a couple a posts I've seen about this guy lately. Just that everyone complaining about him is under 50 posts. What's up here? Can anybody confirm anything on this guy for sure?(who is recognizable on this board). Could this possibly be a way of defaming certain parties? Hate to be skeptical but maybe a different take on this stuff is in order. If you did get taken I hope things work out for yah but, for CHRIST's sake, get a Mod to back you on it and people will be very willing to back you. Infact you may even be amazed if you read some posts the lengths to wich they will go for you. Last time I took a skeptical view on this kind of post some other guy with less than 50 posts came on and blamed me indirectly of being "Holier than thou". Believe it or not most everybody on here is fully willing to help you if you can come up with something substantiated.

[This message has been edited by Bubba (edited November 09, 2000).]


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Slopain

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posted November 09, 2000 12:09 PM

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Bubbas right, but even if the source doesnt deliver there is no scam (in my eyes) there is no proof she/he paid.

Slopain


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gina0

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posted November 09, 2000 12:19 PM

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Do you know what the chances are a letter down not arrive to its destinations. I mean come on I sent the funds and he is lieing or he has just misplaced it. I mean its like 1 in 20,000 that it would not have got their, and I dont buy it. If you think there was no scam find, but I know he got it. The odds are so friken in my favor. Plus why would I lie, I dont work for brovel or anyone else. I would love to get my stuff and praise the guy, but man I dont think that is going to happen. I hope i am wrong.

Trevor


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dsnuts

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posted November 09, 2000 12:20 PM

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What do you consider sunstantial? There have been neerly 2 dozen posts on this guy, that is not substantial? Complaints have ranged from, him saying he never received, to not responding to not ever sending at all. What else do you want? No one, is trying to defame anyone here. In fact, i am certainly against posting scammers until they are verified as scammers. I know many good sources have been damaged by this type of irresponsible behavior. There comes a time when you have to call a spade a spade though. It is not to ruin anyone, but in fact, to save others from being scammed. When people post a scammer they usually have intentions of saving other bros some money, that is it!

And as far as the newbie references go....
I might have 20 some odd posts but i will put my knowledge up against about anyone on this board, i have been in this game for 10+ years and have done virtually every type, brand, and combinatin possible. Just because you dont have posts doesnt mean you dont know your shit, i just means you dont have as much spare time as others.

I am quite sure that Flex and Ronnie Coleman know there shit about lifting and gear, but if they got on here and posted for the first time they would be considered dumb-ass newbies huh cause they only had a few posts huh? GIMME A BREAK


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gina0

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posted November 09, 2000 01:21 PM

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Again, I would love to come back in a day or 2 to tell everyone that he came threw. This post is just to let others know what is going on, plus I only posted it because all the other posts about this guy. I am just saying if you are thinking about using him, wait I will let you know what happens.

Thanks Donuts
you are correct that I am new to posts but I know allot about the sport and the life. I would have given all my knowledge up to just have used a tracking#, but still I know he has my funds, and that is my take hope me an chris can work this problem out some how.

Thanks
Trevor


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motownmuscle

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posted November 09, 2000 01:47 PM

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I have had the same problem with a different individual ( I think, I don't know his real name, only 3 letters) I sent him global priority EXACTLY as he stated to do, kept the slip. and now I have emailed him and haven't heard from him in 3 days (usually he takes all of a day) It has been well over 20 days since I sent it. IF this guy turns bad there is gonna be a big prob for a lot of bros.


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Bubba

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posted November 09, 2000 01:50 PM

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Eh dsnuts

You typed:
"What do you consider sunstantial? There have been neerly 2 dozen posts on this guy, that is not substantial?"

If you pull out your fucking dictionary and look up substantiated you'll find the meaning is a little different than what you are refering to. I don't know why you have such a problem with getting a mod on your side. I'm not saying the guy isn't a fucking worthless scamming piece of shit. I'm just saying "GET SOME BACKING!!!!

You typed:
And as far as the newbie references go....
I might have 20 some odd posts but i will put my knowledge up against about anyone on this
board, i have been in this game for 10+ years and have done virtually every type, brand, and
combinatin possible. Just because you dont have posts doesnt mean you dont know your shit,
i just means you dont have as much spare time as others.

I am quite sure that Flex and Ronnie Coleman know there shit about lifting and gear, but if
they got on here and posted for the first time they would be considered dumb-ass newbies
huh cause they only had a few posts huh? GIMME A BREAK

You know what, you maybe a fucking rocket scientist for all I know. You may just have some kinda weird complex about not knowing shit. Till you have been around a bit and earned a little respect don't expect for us to treat you like king fuckin' shit. I never said that newbies don't know thier shit! Or that you or any other newbie is a dumb ass. Look you piss ant don't try and vilainize me. I've been polite up till now. Why you take this as a personal attack is beyond me??? Why you center me out when others agree with me is also beyond me. GIMME A BREAK!!!

If you don't like it suck DSSSNUTZZZ! Right here BITCH!!!


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the mechanic

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posted November 09, 2000 02:06 PM

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I can see the test is plentiful around here today. Sorry to say bro, you really should have played by the rules, the ones we all have learned on here. If your money was really that important to you more thought should have been put into it before it was sent out.
We all would love to hear the truth about this guy and if indeed you were scammed, I feel for you.
Best advice here is for all to take it as a lesson and go through the proper channels to decrease the chance of getting scammed.

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dsnuts

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posted November 09, 2000 02:20 PM

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Look Bubba, i am not saying the guy is a f*%#ing genius for not sending with tracking but that does not change the fact that he is simply trying to help people out. I know you are some kind of moderator wannabe but to be quite frank, i dont give a f@#k what you say. I have received alot of help from mods on this and other boards in the past but they are not gods either. Dont start talking shit to me either guy, i am trying to help people out here. It is too late to say what He "SHOULD" have done. Yes he should have sent with tracking but i can pretty much guarantee the guy got his money. And if you get someones money and dont send their shit, you are a scammer. PERIOD. I dont care if you put the goddamn money in a bottle throw it in the Pacific. If he has his money, he should send his products. Yes, he is an idiot for not sending with tracking, but i dont know why you feel the need to tak shit to every one on the board that posts something. And the reason i single you out is because you are the only one to have the audacity to post shit like,........... "they all have posts of less than 50 so they must be trying to defame him." I have nothing against you personally but get off your high horse and try to help rather than talking shit and saying what he SHOULD have done..

and dont steal my line..
Or i will show your girl dssssssssssssnuts.
( kidding bro)


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posted November 09, 2000 02:23 PM

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on a lighter note, i do endorse the use of moderators and definitely send with tracking number. i know for a fact that this guy has sent to many good bros before, but they are also experiencing similar problems with him right now. Time will tell, people do have problems but i have to agree that this is strange. Also NEVER EVER post a source name until you are absolutely sure that you were scammed. i Dont agree with that part of what you did at all.

Good luck and stay safe.


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dsnuts

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posted November 09, 2000 02:30 PM

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also bubba, another thing that bothers me is that you call all newbies, "dumb-ass newbies" i am sure all newbies arent dumbass's and many people that arent newbies are dumbass's. Sorry dude, i am sure you are a good bro, maybe its the 1500 mg of ara-test i shot 3 days ago talking.

later


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Bubba

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posted November 09, 2000 02:41 PM

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I'm no "Wanna be". All I am trying to do is help. I'm saying get a Mod. I never shot the line about his reference numbers, that was someone else. I never called any one a dumbass. Newbie or not. Get a quote on that one for me I'd like to see it. The only should of done, and should still do is get some backing. Then anyones argument holds water better. I'm sure your probably a good bro also, But that doesn't stop you from PISSING ME OFF! I don't know if you have a problem with comprehension or something but read the name to the left of the post and name the right people O.K....

PEACE!


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dsnuts

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posted November 09, 2000 02:59 PM

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OK Bubba sorry if i pissed you off. Just trying to help the kid out without ragging on him. i will quit my rant now, sorry i get a little heated sometimes, i will save it for the gym.

By the way, you were great in Forrest Gump.

"shrimp gumbo, fried shrimp, shrimp scampi" classic line bro.


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gina0

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posted November 09, 2000 03:13 PM

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Remember this one important FACT putting a tracking # on a usps letter in no way insure that it will not get lost any more that if it had no tracking #. I do feel that with the tracking # would have ensure weather he got letter or not, but remember I it would not affect weather it was delivered or not, it would only ensure me that he got funds.


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Slopain

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posted November 09, 2000 03:17 PM

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oof this thread got out of hand quick lol! Anyways long story short can we all agree on these:

ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS USE TRACKING AND KEEP THE F'N NUMBER.

DONT START GETTING NERVOUS IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU SOURCE FOR A COUPLE DAYS, AFTER A COUPLE WEEKS ITS TIME TO START ASKING SOME MODS

HIT THE MODS UP FIRST FOR A REALITY CHECK (they may know things you don't or can help mediate)

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posted November 09, 2000 03:27 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by gina0:
...snip...it would only ensure me that he got funds.

That's the real dillemna at this point. He says "he did not receive..." and you cannot prove or disprove the accuracy of his statement. You are correct regarding the possibility of being lost in-transit, but with tracking numbers you are not stuck in this situation. What if this is one of those unique situations and the guy truly did not receive your cash?

Later,



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gina0

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posted November 09, 2000 04:13 PM

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1911, I hear what you are saying. BUT remember less than 1 in 20,000 chances funds got lost while on way. I just hope Chris send package so I can be on my way.


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Bubba

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posted November 09, 2000 04:30 PM

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O.K. the shrimp line from Forest Gump was a good one dsnuts. That's not really where I got the NIK from but funny shit dude.

A question for ginaO

You a guy or a girl?


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