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jmac

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posted November 08, 2000 09:39 PM

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What's the buzz on stacking these two orals.


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Judge Smales

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posted November 08, 2000 09:44 PM

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Not really top-ranked cycle, unless of course you've got a liver you are trying to get rid of, as they are both 17-AA


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jmac

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posted November 08, 2000 09:46 PM

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Any recommendations on an oral only cycle?


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WinDec

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posted November 08, 2000 10:02 PM

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Winny and D-bol make an okay, but not particularly synergistic pair. Neither binds particularly well to the AR receptor.

For a good oral combo, try one agent from each of the following two categories:

1. Winny or Dianabol
2. Primobolan or Oxandrolone

If one has a healthy liver, refrains from alcohol consumption, tylenol consumption, etc., and keeps the dosages reasonable, there shouldn't be serious issues with liver toxicity, despite the fact that three of the above four agents are 17-aa. (Note: don't try this with high-dose Anadrol and Halotestin! <g> )

On a somewhat different note, why oral-only? Injections are fun <g> and easy, and their inclusion makes for much better (and cheaper!) cycles.


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jmac

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posted November 08, 2000 10:06 PM

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I just getting back into the gym after a serious layoff- way to long. It's been 5 or so years since I have been on any gear. So I looking for a nice boost to get me going again.


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Valdez

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posted November 08, 2000 10:10 PM

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I'm not exactly the best expert on this, BUT why stack two orals?? especially when both are heavy androgens. AND dbol is notorious for water retention, and mass gain. while winny is notorious for being an excellent cutting AS. it just doesn't make sense.

plus like others said, the liver will thank you for avoiding this "cycle."


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jmac

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posted November 08, 2000 10:14 PM

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I was thinking of starting with the D-Bol for some size and strength and then ending the cycle with the Winny to harden out and keep some gains?? Call me crazy!!


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WinDec

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posted November 08, 2000 10:16 PM

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Okay, bro. Good luck with the come-back. I know all about long layoffs from training, unfortunately.

One more piece of advice, though: You are almost certainly seriously de-trained. Give yourself some time -- a couple of months at the very least, preferrably a bit more -- before hitting the gear, or you will waste almost all the potential benefit of the cycle.


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WinDec

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posted November 08, 2000 10:20 PM

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Oh, you are going to use them consecutively...

Even more reason to add an IM. Deca would be a great choice; it stacks very well with each of your oral choices.


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jmac

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posted November 08, 2000 10:21 PM

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Should I wait until I plateau naturally after a couple of months before hitting the gear?? In the past month my strength and size are going back up quickly. Muscle memory kicking in - I quess.


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lawnsaver

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posted November 08, 2000 10:28 PM

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Yes, please wait for your natural platue. The gear will then break new ground for you. If you take it now you will only get back what you already had


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WinDec

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posted November 08, 2000 10:31 PM

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Yes, muscle memory. If I were you, I would fully take advantage of it, and only hit the gear after I plateaued. And invest in a few vials of Deca, and some pins! <g>


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Hugh Gellatts

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posted November 08, 2000 11:29 PM

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an effective dose of primo orals or oxandrolone would be not at all cost-effective. That is unless you can get them in bulk powder, but I don't think that is available (correct me if I am wrong).


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