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Author | Topic: Looks Like a Happy New Year! (Cycle) | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 413 |
I've designed a cycle for a friend. It is set to start January 1st. Week___EQ___ARA___T3___Clomid___ 1_____400___500___50ed___ 2_____400___500___50ed___ 3_____400___500___50ed___ 4_____400___500___50ed___ 5_____400___500___ 6_____400___500___ 7_____300___500___ 8_____300___500___ 9_____300___500___50ed___ 10____300___500___50ed___ 11____200_________50ed___ 12____200_________50ed___ 13______________________50ed 14______________________50ed 15______________________50ed 16______________________50ed 17 18 19 20___EQ___Fina___T3___Winny__Clomid___ 21___400__75ed___50ed______________ 22___400__75ed___50ed______________ 23___300__75ed___50ed______________ 24___300__75ed___50ed______________ 25___300__75ed_____________________ 26___300_______________50ed 27___300_______________50ed 28___300_______________50ed 29___200_________50ed__50ed 30___200_________50ed__50ed 31_______________50ed________50ed 32_______________50ed________50ed 33___________________________50ed 34___________________________50ed 35 This is for a friend who has never used AS before. He weighs 190 at 12%, 6'0. What I like about these cycles? For starters, the price. 7 vials Ultragan @ 53= 371 2 vials Aratest @ 55= 110 5 grams powdered Winny= 200 (with lots of leftovers) 1 Fina cartridge and kit= 70 (lots of leftovers) 4 boxes clomid = 40 (with leftovers) 2 boxes nolvadex = 30 (with leftovers) 4 boxes T3 = 40 (with leftovers) 100 needles = 24 (with leftovers) Renting mailbox, miscellaneous etc = 35 Total= $920 Might add some powdered arimidex, yohimbine, and this doesn't figure in ECA or food, but you get the point. With the bulk cycle starting Jan 1, the second (cut) cycle starts late May. Good enough timing. I like the mass potential of the first cycle. Hell, I think EQ is pretty cool. I am unsure about relying on EQ this much, but friends of mine do just fine. I don't like the only 8 week gap between cycles, but he hasn't done AS yet and he can take a nice long break after. The T3 should help offset excessive fat gain during bulking, while still allowing serious muscle growth. I liked the 4-on 4-off suggestion. Please nobody email me and ask where one can buy anything mentioned above. I am not and never have been a source. For those unfamiliar with why T3 is getting involved with this can use the following links to find the pieces of the puzzle. https://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/036380.html http://www.mesomorphosis.com/exclusive/haycock/growth-factors.htm I'd like to hear what you think about it. Stay huge bros. Peace! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 80 |
why not throw in some dbol weeks 1-5?? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 413 |
A possibility, but that would cause more bloat and use of antiestrogens. Good thought Deppnade. Peace! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 394 |
Very nice! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 413 |
Bulking Macronutrient Profile 5100 cal 420 g CHO = 1680 cal 32.9% 414 g PRO = 1656 cal 32.5% 196 g FAT = 1764 cal 34.6% These are divided into 6 �A� meals consisting of 70g CHO, 46g PRO, and 28, FAT. These are accompanied by 2 �B� meals consisting of 46g PRO, and one �B+� which includes 28g FAT with the 46g PRO. These will be eaten on the following schedule: Such regular and uniform meals will be accomplished using my homemade MRP shakes. Ooops, I mean my friends homemade MRP shakes. These consist of honey, whey, soy isolate, mashed potatoes, wheat germ, and soy lethicin. Extra fat comes from a shot glass full of peanut, olive, flax oil etc. A shake may be replaced by �real� food so long as it meets or exceeds the caloric requirements. Cutting Macronutrient Profile These are divided into 5 �C� meals consisting of 40g CHO, 32g PRO, and 15g FAT. These are accompanied by 2 �D� meals consisting of 32g PRO and one �D+� meal consisting of 32g PRO and 15g FAT. These will be eaten according to the following schedule. This allows the yohimbine to do its thing without conflict with insulin. Heavy compound exercises will be performed early (6-7 AM) in the morning. In between cycles, some cyclic ketogenics along with regular aerobic exercise is under consideration. My friend has always done well on CKDs, losing 2.25 lbs FAT while gaining .25 lbs muscle per week for 4 consecutive week-long cycles (according to underwater body composition analysis). Keep the critiques coming. Peace! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 91 |
I ALLWAYS READ DR ATLAS STUFF BECAUSE ITS WELL THOUGHT OUT- HOPE YOU DONT MIND IF I STEAL THIS FOR MYSELF- IM HOPING TO BE BACK UP AND READY BE LATE DEC-TOMO ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 965 |
I really don't think I have enough experience to critique you too much, considering your obvious experience, research, and thoroughness (sp.?)...I have to say that that is the most detailed cycle/diet plan I have seen on this board--EVER! Best of luck with it, I hope you put on about 30-40 pounds of muscle when all is said and done!!! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 799 |
Dr A, I'm gonna use t3 next week first time so I don't really have much experience with it, but I don't see the need for so much t3 in this cycle. When I first read the cycle I figured it was designed for somebody with really high bf%. How about dropping the t3 in the bulking phase where it may be detrimental to gains and using clen when the bulk phase is completed..this way the clen should get rid of any fat which was accumualted during the cycle and act as somewhat of a bridge until the cutting phase..let me know your thoughts, thanks. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 413 |
I'm considering T3 for a few reasons. One is that "my friend" would not like to gain too much fat off the bulk cycle. Second, recent findings indicate T3 may be anabolic since T3 levels drop sharply on-cycle and limit the amount of metabolism (anabolism+catabolism) that can occur. T3, as I'm sure you know, is not so much a specific fat-burner but an accelerator of metabolism. It has links to natural GH and IGF-1 production that made this seem like a good choice. It also seems to have anabolic effects when used PROPERLY (just had to yell before people decided to drop everything and eat T3) with a high-calorie diet. I'm not saying I'm right, just that I think I am ;-) Thirdly, the amount I propose does not seem all that much, especially with all the bros anouncing that they take 100mcg for longer periods of time without ill effect. Of course, bodybuilders used to eat dessicated liver tablets... but still, I'm willing to try this. Links to what I used to draw these conclusions are given above. Thanks for the input. Peace! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 162 |
I don't like the cycle, but that is mainly because I stick to the basic 6-10 weeks cycle, and would never let anyone go on like that. Not flaming you, just saying I don't believe in that, and other people have different opinions. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 139 |
Wow!!! Nice cycle. I copied everything down for future reference. If I ever get an astounding source with great prices, maybe I too will try that one day. Till then, I will settle for weighing around 290. B True ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 145 |
Well I have a good source...I can get everything except fina...but I like sticking to the 12 week cycles to be safe...But I usually take less of a break...like half of the cycle time off...Good cycle though!!!! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 139 |
One does not need a source to get fina. Why can you not just order it? B True ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2123 |
Krusher, Dr A is right on about the effects of T3. Also, its safety is being documented more, so I might start incorporating it into all of my cycles. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 413 |
Hmmmm. There seems to be a little confusion about this. These are two seperate cycles, a 12 week bulking seperated 8 weeks from a 10 week cutting. LOL nice sarcasm B fold! I dig the constructive criticism. Peace! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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