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Spunky

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posted November 07, 2000 08:38 AM

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I posted a msg about lat workouts. I used your opinions and I got a good burn when I was working out. I lowered the weight, came down slow on my pulldowns (behind the neck and in front) and held it for 2 seconds and squeezed my lats. I pictured them coming together. I did this and got a great burn, woke up this morning and I can't even tell I worked them........ FUCKINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I never get goddamn sore!!


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jet

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posted November 07, 2000 08:58 AM

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Bro, How often do you work back? How many sets do you do? If the muscle is not fully recovered, you won't get sore. I do back once a week.. 12-15 goood sets. If I work it anymore than that, I don't get sore.


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Spunky

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posted November 07, 2000 09:07 AM

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Once a week. I worked it yesterday and I know its been atleast 5-6 days from my last back workout.


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px1138

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posted November 07, 2000 10:16 AM

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I worked back yesterday, sore to the touch today. Did 4 total working sets. A set of pull overs to failure, then immediatley a drop set to failure, then immediatly after that a set of pulldowns (supinated grip) to failure, and a drop set of those to failure. 4 sets in a row. I remember seeing your post yesterday, doing it slow used to get em for me, not anymore. I have to do pullovers first, before rows, so it isnt my bi's that get all the work on rowing movements. thats my opinion.
but how intense are you going? are you just doing a certain number of reps?


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The Shadow

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posted November 07, 2000 10:20 AM

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Spunky - no flame but behind-the-neck pulldowns will NOT affect your lats. They are a midrange movement for your mid(upper)back. Try doing 4 sets of pullovers suppersetted with 4 sets of chins. Polish them off with 4 sets of stiff arm pulldowns.

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Spunky

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posted November 07, 2000 10:23 AM

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I haven't been supersetting, but I go every set until failure. When I am working them, they burn like a motherfucker but I keep going and going until I can't do a single rep, but still no soreness. I think the only reason my back is getting wider at all is because I do heavy deadlifts...


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mike peters

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posted November 07, 2000 10:40 AM

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I read an article about doing super high reps like up to 50, for a change of pace. We know this doesn't build bulk, but your muscles aren't use to that. I tried it, a weight that allowed me 30 reps on (wide grip) lat pulldowns, then kept dropping the weight until I hit 50. I did the whole working as such. I was sore as fuck the next day. I've experienced the same problem. I sometime do that w/ all bodyparts only once a month. Now back gets sore w/ regular workouts. I hope this helps.


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madbomber31

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posted November 07, 2000 11:01 AM

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HERE, TRY THIS... MY LATS ARE KILLING ME FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER!!!

WARM UP WITH PULLDOWNS, LIGHT TO MODERATE WEIGHT, JUST 2 SETS...

DEADS-4 SETS FIRST SET LIGHTEST, LAST SET HEAVIEST (4-6REPS)

THEN MOVE TO THE ROW MACHINE... PREFERABLY THE HAMMER ROWS, BUT CABLE WILL DO FINE.
DO 4 SETS THERE. AS MUCH AS YOU CAN HANDLE FOR 6-8 REPS FOR THE FIRST 3, THEN THE LAST SET REP THAT BITCH OUT SQUEEZING THE MUSCLE AT CONTRACTION, MAKE SURE YOUR RANGE OF MOTION IS GOOD AND YOUR NOT JERKING..

THEN DO PULLUPS, MOST LIKELY YOU WILL HAVE TO USE THE ASSISTED WEIGHT PULLUP THINGY. DO 5 SETS, ADDING MORE ASSISTANCE WITH EACH, AND HOLD IT AT THE TOP AND LET YOURSELF DOWN SLOW, THEN FORCE OUT 2 AT THE END OF EACH ONE BY USING YOUR FEET AS A MEANS TO REACH THE TOP. THIS SHOULD HELP... ITS GOING TO BECOME MY BACK ROUTINE, WITH A CHANGE HERE AND THERE EVERY WEEK OR TWO...


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he-man

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posted November 07, 2000 11:10 AM

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Bro just 'cause your not super sore does'nt mean your lats are not growing. Seems you so hell bent on making your lats sore that you might just end up overtraining them. Not trying to bust your balls, but you might just need to be a little more patient.


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lpw

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posted November 07, 2000 01:56 PM

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I think he-man's got the right idea. Soreness is not the only, or always best, indicator of intense training. Some people get more sore than others, and some people feel it more is some body parts. If you just changed up your workout, give it at least 3 weeks and then ask yourself, are you getting stronger? are your lats bigger? You might be surprised at the results, even if you aren't always sore. Be careful of overtraining.


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Bjaarki

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posted November 07, 2000 03:02 PM

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I liked Mike Peters' idea about changing up the weights and rep range once a month or so. I'm going to give that a try when I work back tomorrow. Thanks for the idea. It's an obvious one, but I'd forgotten to give it a try.

Bjaarki


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