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Tulk311

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posted November 06, 2000 11:18 PM

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Hey bros got some questions for ya.
i know deca/dbol is a great stack becausethey have synergy, but does anyone know how they work together like this...what is the reason they are so great together?
also what about winny and deca, people are saying use these together to inhibit progesterone induced gyno...how does it do this, any research that shows this or is it just expierence? Thanks for the help
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ManOSteele

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posted November 06, 2000 11:23 PM

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Tulk...I put a post up earlier explaining synergistic effects of certain steroids and supplements...Search the Archives...GoodLuck!!

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Tulk311

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posted November 06, 2000 11:31 PM

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Thanks for the heads up bro! ill check it out.
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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted November 06, 2000 11:55 PM

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The reason deca & d-bol work so well is this--Deca binds very strongly to the androgen receptor(A/R) and exhibits its anabolic effects through this ROUTE.However,it exhibits very little effectiveness outside of the A/R,and this is where dianabol comes in.Dianabol has a very poor binding affinity to the A/R,but a very powerful effect in pathways independent of the A/R.So basically.when stacked together,each one makes up for the others weak-points,and you have a very potent one-two punch of anabolic activity that's achieved through totally different pathways simultaneously.The same applies to deca/winny combinations,and yes,that is a safer stack where progesterone is concerned,as the winny will minimalize this.

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CLEMDOG

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posted November 06, 2000 11:59 PM

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sweet Huck, never knew that!


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Tulk311

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posted November 07, 2000 12:08 AM

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Thanks Huck, full of knowledge as always.
Now with that in mind would it be possible to make a stack using the synergy of those three compounds or would that be to much? I have been wondering this and think it is possible but dbol is thinning my hair as we speak and i hear winny is almost as bad...any help ?
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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted November 07, 2000 12:28 AM

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Well with deca thrown in,finasteride is a no-no for hair protection,as the two combined will actually accelerate hair loss.Not sure if the same applies to topical solutions(Nizoral,flutamide,etc.)Milk-thistle extract would also be a very wise idea,as both winstrol & dianabol are 17AA,and are rough on the liver.....


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted November 07, 2000 12:04 PM

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Bump this for the hair loss experts.Anabolicum mister,you out there?


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Tulk311

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posted November 07, 2000 01:10 PM

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Thanks again, now if i used a low dose of both the dbol and the winny, do you think i could still get the effects of the two and no hair loss? Also should i run the winny throughout the cycle or hold it for about the last four weeks? keep the knowledge comin bros!
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fourhundred

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posted November 07, 2000 02:44 PM

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OXANDRALONE-WINSTROL
WINSTROL-PARABOLAN
HGH-PARABOLAN
HGH-TESTOSTERONE
ARE GOOD SYNERGITICS


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Tulk311

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posted November 08, 2000 01:48 PM

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The Shadow

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posted November 08, 2000 02:06 PM

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One of the best combos is A-50 & Winny

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Anabolicum Mister

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posted November 08, 2000 08:33 PM

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No problem using flutamide and nizoral in your stack. If you're losing hair, then it's probably a good idea.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted November 08, 2000 10:20 PM

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Thank You,A.M..


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giantset

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posted November 08, 2000 10:56 PM

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Hey AM, how does the flutamide compare to using say spironolactone and 5% minoxidil or spironolactone and 5% xandrox. I am using test with deca now so I can't use the azealic acid. I am using the minoxidil and spironolactone now and I seem to be growing a little bit back. When I am done with the deca I will move on to spironolactone and the 12.5% xandrox. What is your experience with these? I am hoping that the spironolactone will help block the androgen related hairloss from primobolan, eq and winny.

Later,
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Anabolicum Mister

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posted November 09, 2000 06:47 PM

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In theory, flutamide is a better anti-androgen than spironolactone. Also, due to its lower molecular weight, it may also be absorbed better for increased effectiveness. How this translates into the real world is not known. I have not yet used flutamide (plan to in upcoming cycle ) but I believe I have had some success with spironolactone.

Note that the deca will remain active in your system for a while after your last injection (amount of time would be dose dependent) so wait perhaps a couple of weeks after your last deca shot before starting the Xandrox.


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