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Author | Topic: I'm sick and tired of this crap | ||
Moderator Posts: 5374 |
with hushmail!!!! Everyone this is all very simple to do, you should all start using pgp. www.pgpi.org go download the software, then BEFORE YOU INSTALL IT, go read It's extremely easy to use and can be used with any email client, even has some plugins for certain ones. I've been using it for years now, and it just amazes me why people don't use it!!! Just go and do it, you'll never have to worry about hush crashing or people snooping or your messages being saved on some server somewhere. As well you can encypt your hard drive, files, icq messages etc etc etc..... GO DO IT!! ------------------ | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 465 |
Agreed, I loaded it up awhile back. Problem is "others" won't do it (I don't fucking no why?). Later, | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 151 |
thanks E2 i will try it i hate hushmail they need to call it junkmail | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1164 |
AMEN to that! | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 17 |
Actually PGP is a poor excuse for encryption. If you are concerned that you're e-mail could lead to a conviction pgp is the last thing you should be using. Verisign (or any certification authority) offers public/private key encryption with their digital certificate packages. These key sets and key pairs are from a stronger algorithms that will buy you considerably more time than PGP. The downside is that certifcates are not free. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1415 |
I agree with E2. It is easy to use. I use it with all my closest Canadian friends that are 6'1" 240 and over. It really works great. | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 24 |
Do any of you think that using encrypted email will draw attention to that email if someone is snooping. In other words, might an email address get flagged and all emails (encrypted) get snooped/copied. You could have someone snooping all your emails just BECAUSE they are encrypted. In other words "if you encypt your email you must be doing something illicit", so snopp it. At some point they might have enough emails and decide to break the encryption (if they assume the same keys are used for more than one email)
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Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1415 |
None of the encryption methods are going to stop Law Enforcement from intercepting your email and decoding it. But they need a warrant and probable cause or they are commiting a felony themselves. I think pgp is great for keeping the prying eyes of say your ISP system admin from reading at them. Or if someone picks one off a router somewhere. | ||
Moderator Posts: 5374 |
Code if you set up your pgp key according to the directions on the pgp4dummies website using a 4096 bit encyption etc.. it's a very strong secure excryption, as well make your passphrase as long and complicated as possible, mine is extremely long, let's just say it takes me over a minute to type it in. ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 945 |
Thanks, bro, I'm about to do it... ------------------ | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 17 |
Hahaha! E2, ok, so you got me there man! Although key length means little if the algorithm is weak. But it's a damn good deterent.
Any questions can be thrown at my e-mail on the profile.
[This message has been edited by Code (edited November 06, 2000).] | ||
Moderator Posts: 5374 |
Code you're right, but we all have to admit that anything can be cracked and i don't really think hushmail is that secure, well pgp in my eyes is a better option, less hassel and you can use it on any email client. Thanks for your input! ------------------ | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 339 |
i think being E-2 and being as big as he is on this board is attention grabbing all ready. he might as well pgp, because if someone wants to start snooping who do you think they'll want? | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 17 |
True, anything can be hacked. PGP is simple to use and free. So it's a good option. You never know who is snagging packets from your machine. It's best to err on the side of paranoia. ------------------ code:#!/usr/bin/perl | ||
Moderator Posts: 5374 |
Just for all you guys, remember that generating a 4096 bit key will take quite a while, sometimes 1/2 hour or so. Takes me about 15 mins on my computer. ------------------ | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 17 |
Good point E2. Key generation, by it's very nature, is processor consuming. Since you are in essence creating a key pair that cannot be mathematically decoded by a computer. Although it is just multiplication, so you'd think it wouldn't take that long. BTW, a dual PIII 800 takes just under 2 minutes for 4096b encryption. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1140 |
Gentlemen, I suggest you appropriate this software and learn to use it. Many of us will no longer discuss these issues without the appropriate premptive security measures. ------------------ | ||
Moderator Posts: 5374 |
Code you're right, i'm running my little dual PII 333, i know i need to upgrade, but i'm still holding on while i can, soon i'll be useless. ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 66 |
A bump for E2. I am downloading it right now cause he's been kind enough to respond to me my email's from my hush account. If this makes it easier for E2, then enough said... Go Big- | ||
Freak Posts: 1578 |
I have never had a problem with Hushmail, except for one time when they were upgrading. | ||
Guru Posts: 3817 |
I downloaded it a while ago, but it didn't tell me what to do next. So, maybe I will figure it out tonight. | ||
Novice Posts: 1 |
Encryption isn't the only problem guys. IF you ever get busted, you can bet that they will also take your computer away, where all the unencyrpted email sits. So they'll load up your comp and can read your mail just like you can. Not only that, but they'll also be able to see who emailed you what and when. With hushmail (or any other web-based email), the mail isnt stored locally on your computer. So even when the feds take your PC, then there's nothing on it! If you're gonna be paranoid and use PGP to begin with, might as well do it right and use hushmail/lipzip/whatever. my $0.02 | ||
Moderator Posts: 5374 |
fresh you're wrong, they won't be able to read you encrypted emails, because the stay encypted on your computer!!! You only can read them be decrypting them with your passphrase and then you can only read them in the pgp window, once you close it, the message is still encrypted. ------------------ | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 22 |
E2 -- true, but if your computer is confiscated and you go to court, law enforcement might ask for you to give up the key. Some argue this is in violation of the right against self-incrimination, but there is not enough law cases out there to establish a precedence yet. In either case, I've worked with several encryption companies that had former NSA mathematicians on staff, and the consensus is that a 4096 PGP key would probably take the government a couple of weeks to crack. It's actually a pretty highly regarded program. The only problem is that since it is distributed freely, there is no way of knowing whether Big Brother put out it's own identical version, with a hidden "backdoor" in it. Bottom line, if if you are "big" enough for them to want to get you, they'll get you. But why make it easy for them? | ||
Moderator Posts: 1267 |
They are watching, I'm not fucking joking neither, I just came back from the gym, I was there wearing my Elite Fitness T-shirt... well to make a long story short, a person who works as a consultant for the FBI told me that the FBI has 900 agents on a internet task force, and Our site is one of the top monitored sites. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 105 |
BUMP...PGP is a great tool. A person can download it free at: http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html Knock yourself out | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 72 |
thanks e2- ive been making a big mistake using the regular browser e-mail. im getting it right this time.-tomo | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 64 |
just b/c your paranoid doesn't mean they're not watching. lol what about ziplip encryption and having a one day expiration on the mail? | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 242 |
I tried the PGP thing last year and I couldn't even begin to figure it out. Hopefully that PGP for dummies thing will work for me! I'm running a cable modem, 550mhz PIII processor, 512 Meg of RHM, and I have absolutely no problem with hushmail. | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 394 |
Big Rick Rock, are you fuckin serious? ------------------ | ||
Moderator Posts: 5374 |
YES BIG RICK IS SERIOUS, IF YOU THINK THAT THEY ARE NOT WATCHING THIS BOARD THEN YOU'RE DILUSSIONAL, THINK ABOUT IT, ANY SEARCH YOU DO FOR STEROIDS OR THE LIKE WILL GIVE YOU ELITEFITNESS.COM , YES THEY'RE ON HERE AND I'VE SEARCHED SEVERAL IP AND HAVE COME UP WITH SOME INTERESTING RESULTS, THEY ARE HERE, BUT THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN HERE, JUST BE CAREFUL. MUSCLEGEAR IF YOU HAVE PROBS EMAIL ME. ------------------ | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 315 |
Locks are for honest people. | ||
Moderator Posts: 1267 |
Like I said earlyer just talking about it puts me at danger of being looked into. The person I spoke to is a good guy I know he is a regular joe (seems to be) and I have seen him around the gym, when he seen my t-shirt he approached me and disclosed the fact that he "moon lights" as an FBI consultant, I know this is true because on different ocasions I've seen him wear an FBI hat, and the towel he uses to shower has their shield on it aswell. On a good note, he did tell me that Most of the FBI's internet resources are geared towards counter terrorism, hackers breaking into Government computers and Terrorist trying to obtain launch codes to missiles and such, He also said that some of the guys on the force Juice and he even asked me a couple of questions regarding what AS does what and how he can prevent bitch tits. I don't know maybe I'm being paranoid, but I don't see why the FBI would have to come after us, I could say that ALL of our bros here are "proffesionals" of some sort, I havent heard of the first person who broke into a house or stole a car to finance a steroid cycle. We pay taxes and work honest 9-5 to make enought money to feed our familys and run a couple of cycles per year, we are not hurting anybody, just trying to improve our selves. time will tell. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 282 |
Good point Rick. And thanks E2 for bringing this to our attention. I'm certainly going to download it as soon as possible. I've been dissapointed by hushmail all too often. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1041 |
I had pgp installed on my pc for the last 6 months and only one guy I dealt with was using it. Since no one was using it I uninstalled it last week.. Damn I guess I will have to put it back on there. ------------------ | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 17 |
PGP 4096b would not take a week. Without the key (or partial key set) it would several weeks. I know this because I used to write algorithms for the national security agency. But the consensus here is obvious: [This message has been edited by Code (edited November 07, 2000).] | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 22 |
Code -- I agree with you. I never said a week -- I said a couple of weeks. Though isn't the official line "about a year"? Maybe to make people feel more at ease. What blows my mind is the new encryption theories that use physics, where you can have a key that is a particle existing in two physical places simultaneously. From the reports I've seen, this would be unbreakable, period. Too complex and too far off in the future for us average joes to even think about, but it's cool to see what possiblities the future holds. | ||
Moderator Posts: 5374 |
bump | ||
Guru Posts: 3817 |
We all know my past, and I can tell you withouth a doubt that they are collecting info on everyone here everyday. Remember, that a lot of agents/leo's are hypocrites too, so they will think nothing of burning one of us or more. I missed what happened to animal. What did happen? | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 17 |
Stalker: It gets better than that. Diffie (the first half of the team that developed the D-H cryptosystems) is working on a system that is based off genetics! |
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