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 SCAMMER ALERT!!
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 25 |
here is a New Scammer! not on the lists i have seen! "Dr. FRANCISCO MOLINA" <[email protected]> and some one named Chistpher [email protected] Trinidad Vasquez this guy riped me off for a nice sum so please look out! Scammer suck! :<     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 308 |
sorry to hear it dude...bump!! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 25 |
bump | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 269 |
Bro, How long have you been waiting for your gear? Email a mod, sometimes they can help. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 44 |
bump... sorry to hear it bro... Scammers SUCK...... [This message has been edited by DevilBoy (edited November 06, 2000).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 25 |
i can get verification of him from myself! he took me for over 500 bucks! nuf said... | ||
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Guru 
Posts: 3008 |
You should see my post bottom fishing gets you scammed. I have been warning some people about it when they asked, just didn't look good. Slopain ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 893 |
Dude, if you ordered directly from Ttokkyo Labs in Mexico City, you're the moron. Of course they'll send your gear. They're a legitimate operation. BUT, customs most definitely will keep it! Get your head out of your ass and use it for once. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 25 |
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Cool Novice
Posts: 25 |
Dude dont call me a moron till you have the facts the guy was a sales rep in the usa told me it was domestic,ly sent gear and i email him for references and he told me to contact his boss in mexico which i did email this above address in mexico and the man said this chris guy was his man so I went ahead and tryed him. it was a scam. i didnt order from Mexico ! I am trying to help people from being scammed if you have a problem with that keep it to your self. I have already gotten email from several people that where going to order from this scammer , nuff said. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 893 |
Let's see here... Dr. Molina is the owner of the company that makes Ttokkyo products. He's not a dealer. The person that should be called out is the "domestic" dealer you got scammed by, but it should have been done through a mod first for verification of the facts. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 329 |
You should post through a Mod. I understand your pissed you got burned but there is a way of doing things around here. You seem up and up but guys have jumped the gun or tried to defame guys before and it causes problems. When you go through the Mods that helps weed out the guys who may have malicious intentions. I'll Bump this for yah. Just try and understand the reasons for the way we do the things we do. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 25 |
I did talk to the owner, he said the guy was his man in the states ! dont you listen | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
bump | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
This may be the most sophisticated scam that i have ever seen. There was an email address for TTOKKYO on another well known site. When you went to email the company they then referred you to their "SALES REP". This was this Christopher guy. He had ridiculously low prices and i decided to make a small order. He actually did come through on this first order but now he is not sending my second order nor responding to my emails. I know of at least 15 people who are experiencing this right now as well. I also know many others that have ordered from him in the past and received large orders so he may just be experiencing problems. I dont know how long ago you ordered but i would wait a while before posting this guy as a scammer. AND AS FAR AS PEOPLES HOLIER THAN THOU ATTITUDE, DONT ACT LIKE YOU ARE SO DAMN SMART. THIS GUY IS JUST TRYING TO HELP BROS OUT. AS OPPOSED TO THOSE WHO JUST LIKE TO RAG ON NEWBIES OR OTHERS. EVERYONE WAS ONCE A NEWBIE AND MOST ALL OF US HAS EXPERIENCED SOME TYPE OF SIMILAR PROBLEM. DONT BE A DICK | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 329 |
quote: I'm trying to be polite here. Not the owner. A MOD on this Board. You will see a group of names in the top left corner of the listings. Before you post something like this you should go through one of them. BTW I read it. This is not being holier than thow NEWBIE. It's just politely letting him know the rules . No posting Suppliers, Bogus or not. That's what the Mods are for. They are here to protect you, me, and them. [This message has been edited by Bubba (edited November 06, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 893 |
There are too many things here that could have happened before you can scream "scammer!" First, Dr. Molina runs a good business making many veterinary products, a very small segment of which is anabolics. He's also made it known that he wants to enter the American market, so I'm sure he hired a few people in the US to distribute his products. The character "Christopher" could have done a few things wrong: 1) he could have been selling Ttokkyo products to individuals not knowing that it's illegal to do so, 2) been nailed by the feds in some instance for doing so, 3) thought he could make some extra dough by scamming people. I just highly doubt that Dr. Molina is the center of some big scamming conspiracy ring. He has more to lose than gain by doing this. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 66 |
I also got emailed Ttokkyo labs, and they gave me the same rap regarding their sales dude in the US. I also received an email from this Cristopher fella -different email though- And I DID use the mods some were like go ahead, others did have any opinions and others did not trust. Non the less I have my own papa smurf, but some product on the list tickled my feather. Needless to say I did not send the $$$. But I here what you're saying Thick | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
i AGREE THAT IT IS VERY STRANGE THAT DR. MOLINA APPEARS TO BE AT THE CENTER OF THIS. I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH HIM BEFORE SENDING MY MONEY AND HE CONFIRMED VIA EMAIL AS WELL AS VERBALLY THAT THIS GUY WAS A REP. CHRISTOPHER MAY BE A "free-lance" BUT NONE THE LESS, HE WAS REFERRED TO MANY GOOD BROS BY DR. MOLINA. THAT IS REALLY MESSED UP AND I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY HE WOULD DO THIS. I AM HOLDING OUT AND WAS NOT GOING TO POST THIS GUY, AS HE MAY BE EXPERIENCING SOME OTHER PROBLEMS BUT HE SHOULD AT LEAST RESPOND TO EMAILS WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 10'S OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, YOU CAN SUCK ON dsssssNUTS! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
I think everyone should read and learn!!! bump | ||
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Guru
Posts: 3008 |
It just wasn't smart. Your ordering illegal goods, go through the appropraite suppliers to get the stuff. If you would have checked with people I don't think you would find one REPUTABLE person back this kind of transaction. hmm I wonder if Ill get any emails thanking me for steering them away from that operation and saving some people some money... nah who'm I kiddin LOL Slopain Slopain | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 104 |
Bumping for some mod attention ------------------ | ||
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Guru
Posts: 4493 |
 THANK YOU SLO [This message has been edited by HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex (edited November 06, 2000).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 321 |
bump for this bro | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
anyone else deal with this guy? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 25 |
bump | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 329 |
From what I've heard this guy is a scam waiting to happen. Gives the first small orders out to get the attention then runs with the money from a load of bigger orders and sets up a new shop later. Didn't wanna be the bearer of bad news. I will tell the appropriate people thanks for stearing me away from this. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 237 |
I have to agree with GymRatSD. You should have posted through a MOD, but I know that most of us really appreciate that there are people like you who are looking out for your bros. We all need to do it to help each other out, but there are just better ways of going about it...that's all. Thank for the info Thick. | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1549 |
stay away from ttkyyoo products...they are not legit..they are in biz only for the body builder and party animal...I visted various vets in mexico and nobody had ttkkyoo products...denkall and intervet, brovel and tornel yes.... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 893 |
I don't know where you got your information from animal, but their gear is all over Tijuana, and for good prices. As for the legitimacy, they have been tested by independent labs. I've SEEN the results personally, and they look very good. If you have information otherwise, post it. Just don't post on hearsay. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 40 |
Yea that sucks. I lost 350 dollars to a scammer last month. fuck them ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 145 |
I AM GONNA STAY OUT OF THIS...SORRY ABOUT YOUR LOOT THICK...i KNOW HOW YOU FEEL...i GOT SCAMMED FOR ABOUT $2000.00 WHEN I DECIDED TO CHANGE SUPPLIES FOR SOME CHEAPER PRICES...THE THING IS THE GUY I WAS GETTING FROM NEVER MESSED UP...IT WAS JUST I THOUGHT I COULD SAVE A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS...I LEARN MY LESSON THE HARD WAY!!! GOOD LUCK... ------------------ My battle cry will always be..."ONE MORE GODD*AM REP!!!!AAARRRGGGGHHH!!! | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 9 |
Bros...I know for a fact his hushmail account is messed up right now so dont call him a scammer yet. I also know that Ttokkyo labs is NOT behind this at all, whoever thiks that is a moron! If he doesnt get his account working properly in the next couple of days then i will post his working email addy...fair enough? | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1319 |
Thats happ. for buying that shit products of ttokkio,like animalB said,stay away from them,they are not a legit labs.I heard they are making the products in one house,so how you can trust on them.Also another mods told me,he have some friend who send the deca 300 to the labs,and that products not contein 300 of deca,just 180mg and mix with some kind of testosterone.I'm looking more info about this,but some bro from Mexico don't know about ttokkio. ------------------ | ||
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Novice
Posts: 8 |
Thick...Why wont you say WHEN you ordered? I have heard that this dude has taken some time to come through before. If you have only been waiting a week, then you should be a little more patient. I have never ordered from this guy before, but I know who he is & this is the first I have heard of him ever ripping off someone. Anyway I just emailed him & he sent me a list so I guess his address is working. WHEN DID YOU ORDER THICK?? | ||
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Novice
Posts: 8 |
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posted November 06, 2000 07:57 AM