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BigJ55

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posted November 03, 2000 01:23 PM

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Alright, this is my first cycle, and I have read ALOT of the great posts here, and I need a little clairification. I am 6' 200lbs, and I am going to do a Deca only cycle...It looks like this:
wk1 .5cc
wk2 1.occ
wk3 1.5cc
wk4 2.0cc
wk5 2.0cc
wk6 1.5cc
wk7 1.0cc
wk8 .5cc

I have read that when you do your first cycle, you will waste alot if you try to do too much. I have also read that if you do not take weight-proportional amounts, you will not get good results. Basically, What kind of results can I expect from this...I have been lifting for the past 4 years naturally, and want to catch up to some of you big guys (and gals).

Thanks,

BigJ55


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The Shadow

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posted November 03, 2000 01:28 PM

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No flame but you would be much better off with 500-600mg test per week for 6-9 weeks.

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Calvin_Clone

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posted November 03, 2000 01:32 PM

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im new to the board, but have some experence.....i would use sus or some kind of test as a base (500 mg of your choice)also get some clomid.....i think you'll see much better gains......plus the test will help with the deca dick


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Twiggy

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posted November 03, 2000 01:35 PM

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Hey there...

What concentration are you thinking of using? I'm assuming 200 mg/mL, because the 50 mg/mL would do pretty much zip at that injection volume.

Most guys here will tell you to add test.

They'll also tell you to start high with your dosages and taper slightly at the end... Using 400/week (2cc) for the first 6 weeks, then maybe taper down to 200 by the 8th week.

And they'll tell you to use Clomid for 2 or 3 weeks post cycle to kick your HPTA back into gear.

But I can't really say shit, 'cause I'm still researching my first cycle myself, so I don't have any firsthand experience with the stuff! :-)

Hope this helps a little, I'm sure you'll get more replies though.

[This message has been edited by Twiggy (edited November 03, 2000).]


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Slopain

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posted November 03, 2000 01:36 PM

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Come on man?! CC's dont help when determing dosages if YOU DONT HAVE THE CONCENTRATION, if you don't know the concentration, tell us the brand at least and how big the bottle is 10cc? Give us more info please.

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BigJ55

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posted November 03, 2000 01:39 PM

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I am using the 200mg/ml. I have clomid for post cycle "support", I guess that I am not sure of what to expect -- if anything from this dosage...any ideas?

Thanks Again Bros,

BigJ55


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Calvin_Clone

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posted November 03, 2000 01:40 PM

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bump


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Pup'nIrn

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posted November 03, 2000 01:43 PM

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you will need more than 10cc/200mg. That cycle will produce 0 gains.


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Slopain

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posted November 03, 2000 01:46 PM

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Ok well if you are set on doing a deca only cycle (Id at least cycle in some winny or primo if you dont want the test-->which is what Id suggest) do it something like this.

DONT PYRAMID Go 400mg (2cc's) each week and if you want to taper the last two weeks go for it, I wouldnt even do that though.

Watch for deca dick it happens, if gyno sets in it ISNT going to help you to take any antiestrogen (another reason for the winny) but that is relatively unlikely in this cycle.

You will gain on it, but EATING IS THE KEY.

Slopain


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Badkins21

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posted November 03, 2000 01:46 PM

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I'd stack it with something, bro...you don't to put on 10 pounds of muscle and not be able to get up...And for your first cycle, I'd definitely stack to get a synergistic effect of the chosen drugs...you said you'd read ALOT of the posts here, and that's good, but I bet you haven't seen many on "deca only" cycles...not a flame, bro, just tryin' to help you get the most bang for your buck, with the least risk possible!

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Daeo

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posted November 03, 2000 01:46 PM

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If your going to go with deca only I'd recommend at least 400mgs a week. You say you want to "catch up" which leads me to believe that you want to gain some mass. I'd stay with 400mgs for 6 weeks and taper the last 2 weeks. Everyone is gonna tell you to use test, but you really don't need to for your first cycle.


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BigJ55

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posted November 03, 2000 01:51 PM

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Your Right Bros,

Like I said, I read alot of posts, and I only found one (beleive it or not) that was a deca only cycle (the Bro was an animal though, he gained like 20#s on it?!?!). I will keep the posts up and let you know, I am thinking of extending the cycle for tweleve weeks, and bumping it up to 3cc/wk.

Thanks Bros...


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Calvin_Clone

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posted November 03, 2000 01:52 PM

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i still say add some test.......deca + test= great gains for a first timer


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Slopain

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posted November 03, 2000 01:57 PM

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J heres some advice, instead of bumping the deca up to 600mg per week Id keep it at 300-400 AND add in another AS at 300-400 (depending on which AS)

I believe 300+300 of two different steriods work better that 600 of one.

Slopain


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