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 Winny/Fina for fatloss: is it valid in theory?
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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these are probably the 2 most popular AAS to use for fat loss, but do they truly help? do they affect certain pathways that greatly enhance fat loss, or is their reputation being cutting drugs due solely to the lack of water retention and the fact they are mainly used on cutting cycles? and in the case of fina, hardening thanks to its highly androgenic nature. if these do affect pathways related to fat loss, does anyone know what they are?     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 622 |
i know all that stuff. what i'm wondering is does the fina affect direct fat loss pathways? examples: increased noradrenaline/lypolysis, favorable glucagon/insulin ratio, increase in muscle insulin sensitivity, decrease in fat insulin sensitivity, etc. hardening doesn't neccessarily mean fat loss. hmm, zeacky's post is gone that is what i was replying to. [This message has been edited by d1734 (edited November 02, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 274 |
hey brother....I thought I would post a reply because no one else has..you are right, you are going to hold less water on fina/winny than you would on test...Fina will help you lose fat if you work on your diet and cardio...but no drug will replace hard work | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 132 |
It would be oh so cool if all you had to do was eat some fish and water and trenbalone would disolve your fat for calories and mix it with the protein to make muscle.All the time losing fat and gaining muscle. Real BB's start out with lot's of muscle and fat,then must calorie restrict while on tren to lose fat.They lose less muscle while dieting on tren,but they lose some.Tren(I prefer tren to fina since component TH is the best sorce of trenbalone acetate,not Finaplex)is prefered as a precontest drug to test because of less water retention.In my experiance I retained improved size and vascularity,but the hardness was a temporary effect. It is so sad that some are deluded by the preminance of tren in cutting stacks of pros into thinking it will somehow help someone with no dietary disappline magically"cut".Since they are"cutting"they feel no need to lift hard.Since they have the magic drug they don't need to calorie restrict either.I wish it was that easy,but no,tren works well in guys that lift hard and eat right.If you are a fat ass with small muscles you are not on a cutting cycle.All a "cutting" steroid can do is help you retain muscle while calorie restricting. Most of us are better off dieting without drugs.Lee Priest is an exception,not an example.Bulk on tren,it's a great strength drug.E2 is a great example if you wish to be on year round.If not,make your on time count and lift and eat big,then calorie restict while you're off.Only competitors or guys who are on year round should use tren to cut. | ||
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Cool Novice 
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niether of those drugs have any fat loss characteristics other than the ones already mentioned the less water retent and harding. if you are looking for fat loss look at some other agents like clen, t3, or a good eca stack with a low cal diet. i will be using both winny and fina with the clen and eca for my cutting cycle also some primo. MM | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 447 |
While no steroid is truly thermogenic (except for progesterone), some are repartitioners of fatty depots. The sex hormones have effects on fat distribution in the body. Several studies have shown that some steroids have an effect on abdominal fat metabolism, especially mobilization of fat stores in this area. This does not equate to burning of fat, but while on a diet, this would in effect constitute a spot-reducing effect. |
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posted November 02, 2000 08:46 PM