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samiam

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posted November 02, 2000 08:43 PM

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Anyone ever experience this while juicing? I'm getting a little nervous. First my bp increases (headaches, hot flashes)and now this. I'm feeling anxious all the time about this now. Could be a coincidence, but I'd like to hear what you all think.

I'm currently into my 2nd week of sust(500)/deca(400)/dbol(6). I started at 162 and I'm now 174. 5'6". Could I be taking too much, or am I just paranoid.

Thanks bro's.


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Dr.Atlas

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posted November 02, 2000 08:49 PM

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What's your blood pressure reading?

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samiam

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posted November 02, 2000 09:01 PM

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The walmart machine says anywhere from 129-150/83-90. My heart rate is up to around 100 bpm also.


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samiam

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posted November 02, 2000 09:16 PM

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bump


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Checkmatebloated

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posted November 02, 2000 09:20 PM

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That is boarder line BP, but you have BP. I used to bleed after my first warmup on squats after about 3weeks of A-50, sus, and the old finajet. You got High BP no ifs ands or buts about it.

Maybe somebody else can tell you how to get rid of it. I was so screwed in the head back then I thought it was cool and kept right on going. wish a board like this was around 10years ago.


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Dr.Atlas

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posted November 02, 2000 09:21 PM

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Not that the walmart machine is the gospel, but high BP is a cause of nosebleeds and you are a little high there. It could be dry air, or dehydration, or you're picking your nose too much. These are unlikely though. Blood pressure is less so much the absolute pressure reading as it is the change in your blood pressure across your life. If you used to read a lot lower, this could be a concern. Get it checked out. Peace!

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TwinGATs

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posted November 02, 2000 09:24 PM

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when i was on tornel or brovel test i got nose bleeds...don't worry about it


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posted November 02, 2000 09:24 PM

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when i was on tornel or brovel test i got nose bleeds...don't worry about it


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samiam

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posted November 02, 2000 09:40 PM

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Searching through the archives, and found that dbol may be the cause. Do you think I should drop it? That would probably take care of my bp too. Or should I stick it out?

I think I used to read around 110/78 but I don't know. I'm a family man so I don't want to risk my health for this.


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Dr.Atlas

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posted November 02, 2000 11:01 PM

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If you have jumped by 20-40 mmHg systolic since you started, your heart has a lot more work. Do a search on ACE inhibitors on the board, which should turn up some of my finer works ;-) then talk to your doctor about it, see if they are right for you. Peace!

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Tomo

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posted November 02, 2000 11:38 PM

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what about dyazide would that help with bp for him - it seems to help for me - although primarily its a diuretic- sorry for spelling
-tomo


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M1KAI

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posted November 03, 2000 03:27 AM

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Bro,
Drop the D'bol and see what happens the nose bleed's are due to your blood pressure its the bodys way of releaseing the pressure in your blood.

I had some d'bol that gave me the same pink thai's actually...!

Keep with the rest if you still get them after a couple of days of stopin the d'bol stop useing your gear and have some time off and get lots of cardio in...!

Update me on how you get on...!


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samiam

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posted November 03, 2000 07:30 AM

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Thanks for all your help bro's.

I think I'm going to taper down the dbol (pink thais) over the next few days. I wish I could at least make it another week or so; when the sust kicks in.


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rainhorn

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posted November 03, 2000 07:38 AM

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that could be a blood vessale that poped due to high blood presure (that semptom is usaly flowed androl high doseages) in your case defanatly from d bol .
try also to get your doc prescraibe you something to lower it down.


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samiam

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posted November 03, 2000 12:52 PM

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Blood preasure 139/85 today. Yesterday was about the same. That doesn't seem so bad after that 150 reading. I'm going to look into some blood preasure lowering drugs so I can keep my cycle going.


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bignate73

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posted November 03, 2000 12:53 PM

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i did a search on this.

up your vitamin C intake, at least over 1gm.

take some flax seed oil, it will help with keeping the membranes of your body from drying out or cracking etc. along with high blood pressure, you may be getting some changes in tissue as well.

as for taking an ace inhibitor....do you honestly think that a doctor will prescribe something like that for a condition caused by the patient that can be remedied by stopping? if a doctor finds out you are on AS, the first thing he will do is say "stop and we'll see after your body normalizes".

treat the symptoms of bleeding first. make sure you arent sleeping in a very dry room or with a fan blowing near your face.

you could even try rubbing a little vaseline on the inside of your nose to keep things moist.

just a thought. good luck

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samiam

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posted November 03, 2000 01:08 PM

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Thanks Big Nate. You have a point about the doctor thing. I think my dad was on some sort of BP lowering med recently, so I'll ask him if he could spare a little. :-)

I found some similar stuff while searching...E2 and lots of others had this prob. I think E2 said he had at least 6 nose bleeds one day! That would be it for me.


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bignate73

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posted November 03, 2000 01:36 PM

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yeah, thats the posts i was referring to. e2 had tons of them. but his cycle was called the "captain insano" cycle too. hehe i remember there were some good replies to help him though.

dbol didnt give me too many nosebleeds, abombs did though. definitely look at everything though, work/sleep environment, vitamin intake, fat intake, water intake. etc good luck


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samiam

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posted November 03, 2000 01:44 PM

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Actually, E2 suggested this cycle to me. :-)
I think everything is in order as far as vitamins and stuff. I've been drinking a ton of water and taking some dandelion root also. Might do some cardio tonight as well. I should be alright. I'd just hate to have to drop the dbol before I really get a chance to experience its full benefits. I'll tell you what though, after I saw that 150/90(?) and my nose was bleeding I think my blood preasure went up just out of concern. I'm much calmer now, and I think that will help also.

Thanks again Big guy for doing that search for me.


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ZEUS13NJ

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posted November 03, 2000 01:52 PM

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BRO, IVE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH NOSE BLEEDS YET, KNOCK ON WOOD....ZEUS13


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samiam

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posted November 03, 2000 02:00 PM

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I hope you never do ZEUS. It's not fun.


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