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 Why do all of these extravagent cycles??
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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After all is said and done, after i buy the Chrysin, clomid, and trib.. including my testosterone and needles im going to get out somewhere around $250, possibly under that. Do some of you stack tons of shit because that is all your receptors will respond to?? Im hoping to gain a solid 15lbs of muscle after i lose all of the water from the test... For less then $250 I think 15lbs of muscle is great...... why would you stack a shitload of other gear.... when to me it seems u can do it just as effective and cheaper with sometimes one drug...      | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 65 |
Unlike you, We would like to get the most possible gains out of our body. Your not going to get that with just some test. Nick | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 189 |
Well - it has been proven that certain drugs stacked together yield synergistic gains. You tend to retain more if you stack Test with something more anabolic. ------------------ The moral? It doesn't matter whether you are a lion or a gazelle, when the sun comes up - you had better be running. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 189 |
N [This message has been edited by The Shadow (edited November 02, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 699 |
I am tring to send my "source's" kids to college. ------------------ "Obsession is passion. Use it. Make it your strength." -by Puc | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 626 |
ok let me rephrase this before I get flamed.. Ok, i am going to throw in primobolan at the end of the cycle.. but what I am talking about... is people making these huge cycles.. like stacking Test, Anadrol, Deca, Winny, etc......... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 801 |
Is this your first or second cycle? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 626 |
2nd | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 801 |
Where is Archdale? I live in Clayton, suburb of Raleigh. My last cycle consisted of test and d-bol, and my gains weren't too good. like 8 pounds at the most. What works for me is an anabolic stacked with and androgen. My next cycle androl stacked with deca. Followed by a few weeks of clomid and nolva. With two shots of HCG one in the middle of the cycle and one at the end. I don't know if that is to extravagant? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 626 |
Archdale is beside High Point, close to greensboro. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 603 |
Each person responds to AAS differently, so some cycles work for some in one way, but not for others. Also, each person yeilds different results from their cycles. Not to mention what they expect and want (personally) goal wise. Put these all together and it adds up to the answer to your question. ------------------ Rock On! | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1544 |
I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH SPUNKY TO A POINT... I DONT THINK THE MEGA DOSES THAT YOU OFTEN SEE ARE NEEDED, BUT THE STACK IS ESSENTIAL. NOT SURE WHO SAID IT BUT THE SYNERGISTIC EFFECT IS GREATER THEN A LONE ANABOLIC/ANDROGENIC GEAR WOULD GIVE. EXAMPLE 400MG OF TEST AND 400 OF NANDRALONE IS GOING TO YIELD BETTER RESULTS THEN 800 MG OF ONE OR THE OTHER. THEY HIT DIFFERENT RECEPTORS IN DIFFERENT WAYS... THIS IS ALSO WHY I DONT USE A LOT OF DBOL, DBOL AND TEST TOGETHER IS FINE FOR A KICK, NOT FOR A CYCLE. | ||
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Moderator 
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Oh, I beg to differ. Big nick what the hell are you talking about ? Won't make any gains on just test ? The reason that people get all strung out on these crazy cycles is because they're just plain stupid. I've preached this before. Go for the most bang for the buck. Stacking multiple things together has its place, but unless you're a very very long time user and are ready for a major show, its not needed. There are things that do work great together but dollar for dollar I'd take test alone any day of the week. Take your money for example. $250 will get you 30 to 35 amps of sust...enough for a nice cycle. The same money might get you 200 dbol and 10 amps of deca. Now maybe 'newbie' math is different but us old guys are going to stick with the test. BPP | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 258 |
If you stack the Dbol with long acting estered Test. I think the idea is too bridge the gap with the Dbol till the Test kicks in.. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1031 |
quote: That is a good combo of drugs effecting ar and non ar mediated pathways. I do however have to point out that both drugs don't aromatize they both turn over to progesterone. That means progesterone induced gyno. My suggestion is that you use Deca/Dbol or EQ/Abombs. If you want to stick to your plan throw in winny as it seems that it will bind to the progesterone receptors and prevent gyno. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 609 |
Keep it simple, I for one feel there is no need for alot of these exotic overkill stacks.. but then again alot of people swear by them. I never take more than 1 or 2 things at a time.And usally stick the basics (sus,d-bol,winny,primo,deca). And for women I recommend never more than one steroid at a time. Winny or Primo and depending on who ya ask some Deca IG | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1031 |
quote: They hit different receptors. Really??? I always thought there was only one receptor the AR (androgenic receptor). Enlighten me... ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 350 |
quote: Have you ever done a test only cycle???? [This message has been edited by Painkiller (edited November 02, 2000).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 382 |
Each drug in your stack should serve a purpose. For Example, in one week I will be starting a Sus/Deca/Winny/d-bol stack.The test is my base drug(it should be in every cyle). The d-bol will jump start my cycle. The Deca will increase protein synthesis and help with joint pain, and the winny will soldify my gains and protect against progesterone. You should not just throw a drug in your stack for any reason, but put together a stack with a purpose and one that promotes synergy. ------------------ | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 8 |
I agree with spunky, I'm doing a first cycle of test only. I'm a little leary of the stacks being unexperienced. One question: Is gyno a factor when using test at less than 400mg per week? it's test cypionate from upjohn. I'm 165 lbs and 37 yrs old. Nothing found from the search on this question. | ||
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Novice
Posts: 9 |
I agree here with Big Dog. Use a drug for its purpose. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 129 |
Dyno,Most guys wouldn't get gyno from 400mg.You might.Some guys develop it without gear,or at very low dose. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 96 |
Keep it simple and use my cycle...A-50, Dbol, Fina, Sust, EQ. Doesn't get much easier than that! | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 43 |
Iron God, can you tell me about some of your primo cycles? What did u stack it with? Ever do a primo only cycle, results? thx | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 615 |
testosterone is overrated. sure its a mass builder, but it aromatizes. i would venture to guess the estrogen created adds to fat gain during the cycle. i wouldn't use large doses of test without arimidex. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 258 |
What else stops Progesterone caused Gyno besides Winny? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 352 |
quote: testo overrated because it aromatizes? shit bro the arimidex would prob be 2-3times the cost of the test. nice dosages of test along with proviron is a cheap and effective route. Unity66 |
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posted November 02, 2000 10:09 AM