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Jeff_rys

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posted November 02, 2000 05:05 AM

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My post on 5 months of PGF2a use was deleted. Enough is enough. That post was my last one. From now on i only put reply's, and if those get deleted, so what.
The last poem from the Ranger is also gone.
It is not in the CHAT room either.
I didn't put all the work in it for nothing.
And i think it was you "El Cubano". It isn't the first time you pull this off.

Jeff,

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YAKUZA

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posted November 02, 2000 05:25 AM

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Are you sure it wansn't archived?


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Jeff_rys

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posted November 02, 2000 07:44 AM

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It was still on the first page when you visit EF. So why the rush then.

Besides it isn't the first time, but it sure will be the last time.

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Fish

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posted November 02, 2000 07:53 AM

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I enjoyed your post. Sorry you feel this way.

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Rocco

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posted November 02, 2000 08:00 AM

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What a shame, you put alot of time into that post. There was alot of great first hand information in there. Fortunetaly for me I had printed it out already.

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Jeff_rys

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posted November 02, 2000 08:03 AM

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well Fish, we all post here, all put our work in it. We help or try to help each other. Most guys here know more of me then my wife. The same goes for a lot of guys here. I don't like to take a step back in life or put energy in something for nothing, like killing yourself in th gym and the results stay away.

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Fish

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posted November 02, 2000 08:12 AM

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I am not saying you are wrong, and I understand why you would be upset. That was some good info, the best PGF2a post I have read. I am sorry that I will not get to read post you make in the future. There are not many bros on here posting real informative post. When one quits, the board suffers.

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Jeff_rys

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posted November 02, 2000 08:28 AM

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Well Fish, since PGF2a will not be used again (i think), and i only use Primobolan for the rest ( i have already enough for my 2 next cycles), there isn't much news to post anyway.

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The Ranger

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posted November 02, 2000 08:30 AM

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Bro,

I really wish you wouldn't go, and as for the report....That was without a doubt the most insightful look into the desire to better our bodies...Jeff, you alone showed the true commitment to PGF2A....I can only hope it was a glitch of some sort...

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Jeff_rys

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posted November 02, 2000 08:47 AM

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Ranger, my good friend, i am not leaving just hate to put a new topic one day and see it gone the other. This happened already 3 times and i don't post new topics that often.

I will stay here on the best discussion board ever.
Besides your poem "Conversation.." is gone too. It was easy to notice that because it had more then 60 replys.

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Jae

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posted November 02, 2000 10:16 AM

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Jeff, that was a great post, I think someone owes you an explanation.


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Krusher

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posted November 02, 2000 10:22 AM

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Yeah Jeff, that was probably the most informative post I've read here to date..hoping a mod can sort this out soon.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted November 02, 2000 11:39 AM

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I believe it needs to be put back into active circulation immediately,as it was extremely insightful,as well as ACTIVE when it dissappeared.This is bull shit.


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WCP

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posted November 02, 2000 12:30 PM

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I have no clue what is going on, or why its not here, but I think it was one the best look into pgf2a Ive seen to date, I loved the thread, I commend you on it.

Ive read that once a post gets so many replies that it gets archived, now this couldnt be so, I mean Ive seen many with over 100 replies stay right on the first page.

If I may ask, why do you thik the cuban wiped it?

I would like to know what it going on as well.

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Saizen

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posted November 02, 2000 12:39 PM

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....All I have to say is where in gods given name is Ranger's poem man????


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BigJay81

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posted November 02, 2000 02:38 PM

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Well shit, Don't leave you have alot of info to give. That was a great report you let us all look at, now that I know more about it You won't see me using it. Needle Phobia hell. When you drank water did you spill like a strainner?

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ironmaster

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posted November 02, 2000 02:49 PM

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Well shit, that will teach me to copy the things I want to refer back to. Jeff, can you email me your report if you kept a copy? It was most informative.


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Badkins21

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posted November 02, 2000 03:00 PM

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BUMP SO THIS BULLSH*T GETS SORTED OUT...WHERE'S A REPLY FROM EL CUBANO ANYWAY, SOMEONE TELL HIM WORDS ARE FLYIN' OVER HERE!

TO JEFF_RYS...THANK YOU! BETWEEN YOUR PGF2A EXPERIENCE, AND SOMEC'S DNP DIARY, I CAN SAY THAT THIS BOARD IS IN NO WAY GOING DOWN HILL AS SOME WANT TO SAY THAT IT IS!

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ulter

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posted November 02, 2000 03:04 PM

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Jeff_rys report is now back on the board for those who would like to read it. PGF2a: 800+ shots, 390 cc's and 5 months later... this belongs here...


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DREXX

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posted November 02, 2000 03:08 PM

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Sorry it was erased...

Don't leave we need you and the other good vets.

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Bjaarki

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posted November 02, 2000 04:35 PM

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Jeff:

That really sucks, man.

Bros, Jeff's thread on PGF2a can also be found on the X-Man's board. It was so good, that the mods there invited him to post it there as well as here at EF, and he did. Check it out there if you can't find it here.
http://pub22.ezboard.com/fxmansboardanabolicdiscussion.showMessage?topicID=827.topic

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Jeff_rys

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posted November 02, 2000 04:58 PM

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Thanks for the support all of you guys.
I guess i was pissed off.
WCP when i said "El Cubano", well he did it once before. I am only guessing.

No BigJay i didn't, but it's a good joke.

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LittleSavage34

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posted November 02, 2000 05:12 PM

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BUMP to the bastard who is responsible!

JEFF...your post gave me a ton of insight into PGF2a. I am considering adding it a couple cycles down the road actually. Please do not let yourself get discouraged. It isn't the quantity of posts, but the quality, and many people forget that. Your post had a shitload of useful info, and I am sorry to see you upset. I want to know what happened to this as well.


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flesche_man

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posted November 02, 2000 08:24 PM

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bump

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Yoda

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posted November 02, 2000 10:37 PM

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I'm with the others Jeff, that post was one of the best and if it was moved I hope it gets put in a catagory all by itself. Lets hope we can figure out what happened and get it fixed.


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filo

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posted November 02, 2000 10:49 PM

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ditto BUMP to the asshole who did this!!!!!


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Frackal

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posted November 02, 2000 11:33 PM

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And I also have a question:

Why would someone randomly delete posts like this? Ranger's poem and Jeff's post have nothing in common other than the fact that they had many replies...maybe it's a glitch in the system dealing with posts like that...maybe...


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Donald Smoot

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posted November 03, 2000 02:11 AM

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Hey, I'll bump for you bro.I'm a needle phobic wus but I read your whole post.I think it was a very honest and knowledgable evaluation of that pgf stuff,the best I have ever seen.Not that I will ever try the stuff(thanks to you).Thanks!It's reports like yours that make this place.Really,there should be a special archive place for rare posts like that with new info about new drugs or ideas.


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Jeff_rys

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posted November 03, 2000 02:13 AM

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We could join and form a club of "Deleted posts". Everytime someone get's one deleted we all bump him. And we have a mod 'our good friend the Ranger) who is in the same boat.

If only when your post gets deleted, you would get an email explaining why ?
That's would help alot.

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ulter

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posted November 03, 2000 10:37 AM

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I don't thoroughly believe it is a mod. They have the keys so they are the first to come under suspicion. I think there is a real possiblity that is the hackers who still have a password or 2 to get in. I say that because it is the best or most popular posts that are coming down and now it is even a mods post missing. It seems the most targeted posts are the ones with the most replies. The ones people notice.


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George Spellwin

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posted November 03, 2000 10:57 AM

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Gentlemen,

I personally have not deleted anything in weeks. But, I sincerely apologize if the system or a moderator has gotten a bit over zealous.

The system is supposed to keep between 3000 to 4000 posts in each forum and above that, archive them from most inactive to youngest.

Some of your posts are really excellent articles, that I would be grateful to have them on the site in perpetuity. Have any of you thought about creating your own elitefitness.com web page and posting your articles there. You could then reference them here or repost them here. That way, they will be available forever.

For example, wouldn't it be cool to have a site: http://ranger.elitefitness.com which could be the home to all his poetry.

The elitefitness.com free personal web pages can be accessed at: https://www.elitefitness.com/sites/

These sites are also a great place to post your pictures. Let me know your thoughts.

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Mr H

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posted November 03, 2000 11:08 AM

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Bump for the big man!


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swol

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posted November 03, 2000 11:20 AM

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damn bro
i feel ya.
you did put some very educated posts up. sorry this all had to happen.
swol


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ulter

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posted November 03, 2000 11:42 AM

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George,
That is a good idea except they wouldn't come up in a search. Which is where they are most valuable. It wouldn't take chris very long to have the deleted post username written to a log if it doesn't match the username of the original person who posted it. About 20 lines of script and an additional field in the database would do it. Then you'd know who deletd what.


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George Spellwin

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posted November 03, 2000 01:06 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by ulter:
George,
That is a good idea except they wouldn't come up in a search. Which is where they are most valuable. It wouldn't take chris very long to have the deleted post username written to a log if it doesn't match the username of the original person who posted it. About 20 lines of script and an additional field in the database would do it. Then you'd know who deletd what.

Sure, they do come up in a search. Just select the "Search member sites" option.

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Jeff_rys

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posted November 03, 2000 03:37 PM

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It's hard to do so George. If everyone (no i know not everyone) is going to create his own website the knowledge will be too divided. I think most guys visite 3 or 4 discussion boards and that's it. Nobody has time to visit 20 or 30 discussion boards. This board's is succesfull because there are guys who have knowledge (mods), guys like Huck, others who care, some who want to share and some who want to learn.
It's the mix that does it, in my opinion anyway.
You know that they say: never change a winning team.

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ManOSteele

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And it sucks because I didn't get a chance to read the dam post. By what it sounds, it was pretty good...Anyway we need informative guys like you. I think everybody adds their peice of value to the board we all learn from each other and grow.

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PSYCO

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posted November 03, 2000 04:58 PM

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WHAT A SHAME!!!!! that was the most informative pgf post and info that i have ever seen. you put way to much time and energy into that post for it to just disappear.


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Maverik

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Jeff, post it over at the canadian board, where I guarantee it won't get deleted. That sucks, it was a good thread.

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bgriff

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posted November 03, 2000 07:09 PM

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I am sorry that such a good post is gone bro!!! I think there is something wrong with the system!!! Maybe the tech guys should check it out???

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The Ranger

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posted November 03, 2000 09:11 PM

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I really think Ulter touched on a very good idea, where as the better posted reports, diary's, in depth personal experiences, etc. would have their own web page.

Some of the more puter literate Bro's(one hopefully) would take care of the site, and would have acess to the select board to retrieve post, and articles and add them there.

Of course he/she would have to obtain permission of the member to use the piece of work...if anyone is familiar with the muscle max board, it would be very similar to the Dawg House....

Just a thought Bro's.....

Hang in there Jeff...this may have happened for the better.......<wink>!!

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Jeff_rys

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I read you Ranger and i think i misunderstood George's post. It would be a great idea to do so. That way there could be a lot of info all together.

You are a real friend Ranger.

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George Spellwin

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posted November 04, 2000 03:34 PM

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Bro's,

Creating your own free web site here is EASY!

There is a web form and that is it. Nothing to learn about computers.

Click Featured Sites at the top of the page to get started. Or anyone can volunteer to create the site and members could just send him articles.

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Jeff_rys

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posted November 04, 2000 03:43 PM

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Yeah George, but the one who gets the articles will have to put a lot of time and energy in it to select what is good and what not.

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