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  Fina...wotrhless to use alone, i.e. no gains?

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SVT

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posted November 01, 2000 10:04 AM

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I have some Fina and was going to do a Fina only cycle. I was going to do the DMSO route but would it be pointless by itself? I know you can get some strength from it but can you get any mass if you are following a bulking diet with it. I am 5'10" and 185-190 lbs. and I am looking for about 10lbs. of hard muscle. I was going to try about 75-100 mg eod. Would injection give much greater results?


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The Shadow

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posted November 01, 2000 10:14 AM

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Injection will ALWAYS give better results than trans-derm.

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posted November 01, 2000 10:20 AM

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Also, would clomid be a wise addition to the fina cycle?


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hayesjones

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posted November 01, 2000 10:36 AM

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maybe some clomid at the end.
Fina by itself, your not going to gain to much, definetely look harder, but if you go the DMSO then I think your wasting your time.
Not to flame you or anyone here but why are all you guys (usually newbies) going the DMSO route?
What is the real reason you dont get a kit?
Do you think its to hard to do?
Scared of needles?
Think its hard to get the kit?

Im just curious


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Loophole Genetics

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posted November 01, 2000 12:10 PM

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I think that the only REAL negative in going the DMSO route is the time you have to put into it. The important thing to do going that route is to use it about 4 times per day. The DMSO will pull in almost all of your tren if not all of it into your bloodstream. The only problem is that it is also out of your system rather quickly. Thats why you apply it a few times every day.


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b fold the truth

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posted November 01, 2000 03:13 PM

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I have used fina alone and with DMSO. I got a lot stronger and gained a few pounds at that. 10lbs is a stretch. You need clomid for after the cycle too. It will help alot.

B True


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dahmer

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posted November 01, 2000 04:37 PM

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DMSO=foul breath!!!


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SonOfLotus

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posted November 01, 2000 04:42 PM

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im not getting that taste in my mouth that everyone talks about... it doenst even burn or sting at all... WTF?

Im using it alone at the end of my cycle for cutting.


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d1734

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posted November 01, 2000 05:22 PM

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any steroid alone will give good results if used in sufficient dosages. the roids that are considered weak as mass builders are traditionally used in low dosages. use Anavar or Fina at 1g a week and gains are garanteed.


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mr.cobra

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posted November 01, 2000 06:44 PM

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Is 1g a week too much for first time on Fina? How would you split up the dosage?


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Pup'nIrn

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posted November 01, 2000 07:28 PM

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1 gram a week? Damn Bro. hang on there! You don't need near that much for a first timer on fina. I have a friend on fina only right now and he has put on a solid 10lbs with 100mg/eod in only 6weeks. Most people don't get those kind of results but it was his first time too. That kind of result can only be expected with injection....NOT DMSO! DMSO method is not worth the trouble.


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bigmann245

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posted November 01, 2000 07:47 PM

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Fina is NOT a mass builder at all. i gained some but hell im going to the gym and busting my ass. thas why i gained muscle. you will get harder and lose fat. thats what its for. if your looking for mass then your looking up the wrong tree bro. not a flame but fina is for cutting.


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MR. BMJ

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posted November 01, 2000 08:29 PM

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d1734 is right. Those who say Tren is not a mass builder are WRONG. This was discussed about a week or 2 ago. Tren is more anabolic than testosterone, and it will yield more gains pound for pound when compared to any other substance. Take 1000mg of tren and watch yourself grow like a weed. Tren. Acetate also has a higher receptor affinity to the muscle cell than testosterone.


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mr.cobra

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posted November 01, 2000 08:40 PM

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So what would be the optimun dosage of fina if you were going to attempt to get some mass out of it?


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Zeacky

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posted November 01, 2000 09:15 PM

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I beg to differ! TBA is twice as anabolic and three times as androgenic as test at the same doseage.

Who here thinks you would gain more muscle on 75mg ed (525mg per week) compared to 500mg as week of sust? I believe all people would gain more on the TBA compared to the Test.

Trenbolone is the most anabolic AAS mg per mg on the market today!!!!!!

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Donald Smoot

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posted November 01, 2000 09:15 PM

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Dmso works O.K.I kept about 5 lbs.and a lot of strength from my last tren/dmso cycle of 12 days.
Used 4 pellets twice/day once each leg.I hear that you absorb about half the tren with the dmso methode, seems about right.
I think it's well worth it if like me you prefer wasting time and bad breath to the potencial grief of shots.
Most references I have seen state that tren is 3x as strong as test.Just off hand I'd say a gram/week of tren is to high for almost anyone.Why not at least try less then half that first.You may grow as well and have fewer zits,more hair etc.
Using component TH with 70%dmso-water I never had any burning or skin iritation.The breath thing is overated, or perhaps people were to polite to say anything?I got used to the garlic taste,it's no problem.
Finally, I don't dought that "A"means well,but I believe that I am less stressed about dmso(a non-toxic fluid)then about injecting magic whatever and the glue etc. from the pellets.I'm a needle phobic wus.
It's perhaps the best thing for short cycles as it kicks in right away,and is gone rapidly(24 hrs.)


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mr.cobra

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posted November 02, 2000 10:16 AM

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SVT

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posted November 02, 2000 10:21 AM

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Forgot to ask....do you have to keep the Fina in the fridge until you use it? That might be hard because I live with the parents right now.


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