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ibliftn

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posted October 31, 2000 11:20 PM

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I just got back from the Olympia last week and it was awesome. I encourage everyone to try to go. But after seeing all of those swoll guys I was just wondering if any of you know what their cycles look like at this point in their careers?? Does anyone have an idea as to to what they are taking, and how much they are taking.


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filo

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posted October 31, 2000 11:34 PM

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GH!!!!! TEST!!!


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finallygotlayed

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posted October 31, 2000 11:39 PM

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GH, Test, Insulin, PGF2a, DNP, mucho deca, tons o Dbol, But I don't know the doseages, but I would like to. I know they run multiple grams of test and up to 20iu's of GH per day, but I'd be interested in hearing about their deca, eq, and dbol doseages. Do they even use primo? I'd imagine not.

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posted October 31, 2000 11:39 PM

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THEY DONT USE STERIODS.JUST MUSCLETECH PRODUCTS.

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Shredder21

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posted October 31, 2000 11:42 PM

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Lots of grams of test, GH, slin, ect. Probably the best doctor prescribed stuff. I'm probably being very stereotypical but that's just what I think.


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ibliftn

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posted October 31, 2000 11:50 PM

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Just trying to bring up some conversation, plus I am real serious about trying to find out what they really do take.
Any info is cool.


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LittleSavage34

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This is weird, and I have no idea what it would do...but last winter, someone here talked about PLASMA EXPANDERS. They said some pros were dabbling with them, and thought they were the next step in BBing. I haven't heard anything since, but it's an idea.


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susthead

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posted November 01, 2000 04:30 AM

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pros take about 20 - 30 dbol a day


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Phreaky

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posted November 01, 2000 04:56 AM

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A base of 1000mg of test and Deca, 4-8 A-50's, 10-20 D-bol, 10-20Iu of Gh, 40-80Iu of insulin. This is THE basic stack!


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media

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posted November 01, 2000 05:07 AM

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PLASMA EXPANDERS??? Shit. What is next? One day we'll be watching cyborgs on stage.


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strengthmonster

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posted November 01, 2000 05:15 AM

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Don't forget the syntex with added silica.


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fourhundred

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posted November 01, 2000 05:15 AM

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What is PLASMA EXPANDERS?


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rainhorn

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posted November 01, 2000 06:38 AM

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mainly gh.


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Bignick12345

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posted November 01, 2000 07:37 AM

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Plasmics are the things when you see a pro before a show sitting in his room with an IV bag to get rid of excess water. Pros have resorted to plasmics because they are testing for diuretics.
Nick


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Bubba

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posted November 01, 2000 09:50 AM

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It's a lifestyle at the stage of the game.
Not a Hobby.


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AZtallguy

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posted November 01, 2000 09:58 AM

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how long do u think ronnie and the rest of them will live? It can't be very long with those dosages over that amount of time.


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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted November 01, 2000 10:16 AM

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Pro cycles (revisited):
Testosterone: 1.5 to 4 grams or more per week. Name your ester. Chances are they've used it.
Deca or Nandralone derivative: around 3-4 mgs per/lb of bodyweight.
Orals: 3-6 anaadrol per day or dbol at 15-20 tabs (or more) per day. Or Mix & Match.
GH: As much as he/she can afford. With the recent availability of Serostim kits at $500.00 or less (believe me they pay less) up to 16 iu per day is not uncommon and unofortuneately is becoming the norm
Insulin: Let's just say its enough to be called "dangerous". I'll leave it at that.
Clen: Take it till it fucking dont work. Then take more.
Nolvadex: Is being used only when the more powerful arimidex isnt available.
You see-its not magic drugs guys, just the basics in MIND bending doseages.

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The Shadow

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posted November 01, 2000 10:17 AM

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I read that Titus uses 1000mg Test PER DAY(that is no typo). Guess even gear can't make up for shitty genetics.

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It doesn't matter whether you are a lion or a gazelle, when the sun comes up - you had better be running.


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Swollen

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posted November 01, 2000 10:21 AM

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NO. The pros don't take what some of these guys say. They figure, he looks better and is bigger than me, I take this at that, so he MUST be doing all of these at a mega dosage. 4-8 Abombs? I don't think so. It would be a safe assumption to say they take many different AS and cycle them at a moderate(for their physiques) dosage. Like a base would probably be a gram(maybe 2) of Deca or EQ(some anabolic) Test(1-2 grams a week for the big guys[230+]), cycling orals(I would say Dbol at 50mg tops, Abombs at 150mg tops) every 4 weeks, GH or insulin throughout, Clen at the end and Flex's lazy ass uses 200g of Synthol in his shoulders. These guys don't make a lot of money, so it would be ridiculouse to think they can even afford 20ius of GH a day. If they can afford Arimidex, then they probably run that and Clomid all the way through. This is just my theory on what they take.

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el cubano

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DECA IS A BIG NO NO FOR ANY PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE. IT STAYS IN THE SYSTEM DETECTABLY FOR OVER 1 YEAR! JUST ASK THAT DUMBASS QB WHO GOT POPPED LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS MILLER. HE SAID THAT IT WAS THE NORANDRO.

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8pack

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Cubao, the fact that he got busted means it's still being used by a lot of professional athletes regardless of testing. You can take shit to mask results. Just the unlucky fucks get busted.

And for all the juce the pro's take the fact remains YOU STILL NEED TO WORK OUT. I bet no one here has a workout routine like any pro.

Die BIG die BALD


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Bignick12345

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posted November 01, 2000 11:08 AM

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I know musclerag sucks, but it said in there the guys claimed his precontest stack included 6 a bombs and 15 dbol per day. Its was a guy who paraded around as natural instead of competing in a pro bb competition.
I think its the dec issue.
Nick


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gearseeker

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posted November 01, 2000 11:09 AM

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Swollen - your wrong. Excesive dosages are the only way the pros can look the way they do. If they were still using moderate dosages they would look like Arnold and the boys from the old days.

I competed at 176lbs last contest and used a good 2000mg per week - precontest! For my size 2000mg test is not unheard of. Ive taken 150mg of anadrol per day while on over 1000mg test per week. This is not overkill - but needed. It does not surprise me at all that pros need 5+ grams of gear a week to keep in shape.

As far as the HGH goes - I used it nonstop last year at 2-4ius per day and I am not a rich man. If a Pro cant find a way to afford 2-4 times this amount he would never have made it to the pro ranks.


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KINGKONG69

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ANDREA MUNZERS PRE-CONTEST CYCLE BEFORE HE DIED.

10-1 Weeks before the Competition daily: Ephederine, AN 1, Captagon, Aspirine,

Valium, Clenbuterol

10-6 weeks before the Competition daily: 2 injects Testoviron a 250 mg
1 inject Parabolan
30 tabletts Halotestin
30 tabletts Metandienon
20 IE* STH
20 IE* Insuline

5-3 weeks before the Competition daily: 3 injects Masteron
2 injects Parabolan
30 tabletts Halotestin
50 tabletts Stromba
2 injects Stromba
24 IE* STH
insulin
2-1 weeks before the Competition daily: 2 injects Masteron
2 injects Stromba
40 tabletts Halotestin
80 tabletts Stromba
24 IE* STH
Insuline
IGF

A few days before the Competition: Aldactone, Lasix



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KINGKONG69

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posted November 01, 2000 11:33 AM

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ANDREA MUNZERS PRE-CONTEST CYCLE BEFORE HE DIED.

10-1 Weeks before the Competition daily: Ephederine, AN 1, Captagon, Aspirine,

Valium, Clenbuterol

10-6 weeks before the Competition daily: 2 injects Testoviron a 250 mg
1 inject Parabolan
30 tabletts Halotestin
30 tabletts Metandienon
20 IE* STH(GH)
20 IE* Insuline

5-3 weeks before the Competition daily: 3 injects Masteron
2 injects Parabolan
30 tabletts Halotestin
50 tabletts Stromba
2 injects Stromba
24 IE* STH (GH)
insulin
2-1 weeks before the Competition daily: 2 injects Masteron
2 injects Stromba
40 tabletts Halotestin
80 tabletts Stromba
24 IE* STH (GH)
Insuline
IGF

A few days before the Competition: Aldactone, Lasix



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LittleSavage34

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***This is the Original post about plasma expanders a while back. I tried doing some research, but haven't been too successful***

Primo57
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posted April 06, 2000 11:42 PM

They are also dabbling around with
plasma expanders like albumin


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Spent the afternoon and evening with Gunther and saw him down 3dbol and 1 a-bomb in the afternoon and the same dosage at dinner that night after his guest posing gig at the local comp I co-sponsored.
Nice guy. He said they were vitamins and winked at me.


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lpw

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You've also got to think about how much these guys eat. I've read that they eat 8-10,000 cals./day. I have a hard time just downing half that.


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el cubano

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8PACK, I'M NOT CALLING YOU STUPID OR ANYTHING, BUT GET YOUR HEAD ON STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU COME AT ME AGAIN! I DIDN'T SAY THAT THEY DON'T TAKE, I SAID THAT THEY SHOULDN'T TAKE IT! AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE GET CAUGHT PROVES THAT THE MASKS DON'T ALWAYS WORK.

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8pack

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This is your post,

DECA IS A BIG NO NO FOR ANY PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE. IT STAYS IN THE SYSTEM DETECTABLY FOR OVER 1 YEAR! JUST ASK THAT DUMBASS QB WHO GOT POPPED LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS MILLER. HE SAID THAT IT WAS THE NORANDRO.
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so, where does it say, "pro's don't use deca?", NO WHERE! i owe cubano a big apology because all he was doing was giving his opinion that pro's shouldn't use it cuz too many guys get popped for it, but i was too feeble minded to understand the obvious and i acted like an asshole by claiming that he said that pro's don't use it, because that is NOT what he said!

[This message has been edited by el cubano (edited November 01, 2000).]


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LittleSavage34

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I love and hate to read about when the pros say stuff like, "I hate when people think we all use steroids." (IE Matarazzo) or when Ernie Taylor says his tris aren't full of synthol...they all talk shit, but we all know they use.


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A friend of a friend said he saw at a gym one day a guy with a pipe and sailor's hat with enormous forearms mulching up some spinach so some pros could inject.


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Hungry1

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posted November 01, 2000 06:52 PM

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Blood doping


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posted November 01, 2000 07:04 PM

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this question gets asked lke every other week no one knows for sure if we did we would all be 300 lbs ripped

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