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gearseeker

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From:Kansas City, Missouri, USA
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posted October 31, 2000 11:13 AM

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Anyone still sold on doing short 2-4 week cycles. I saw some posts months ago about how great it was, but some of the drugs used were long acting - ie. sustanon.

Is anyone getting good results using short cycles of fast-acting drugs? Well enough to give up your old cycle theories?

Im curious because it seems like large bursts of androgens cause as much growth as a long cycle of lower steady dosages.

FYI - Ive been using 25mg WV along with 50mg anadrol ed, 300 fina wk, 1200 test wk. I am very sensitive to progesterone related gyno. The 25mg WV seems to work fine - I dont have any gyno problems after 4-5 wks.


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The Shadow

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posted October 31, 2000 11:19 AM

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Check replies on the Short Prop cycle a couple days ago.

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gearseeker

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posted October 31, 2000 11:31 AM

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Thanks shadow - Prop was one of the drugs Im curious about (suspension should be better).

Also - Im seeing a lot of folks throwing fina in at the end of a cycle. I always use it from the start because its so strong and affects natural hormones so much as with test. Whats the science behind using fina at the end? Isnt this asking for a crash? If Ive got the wrong idea, maybe fina would be a good short cycle drug.


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The Shadow

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posted October 31, 2000 11:33 AM

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I agree. I think folks use it to "solidify" their gains ay the end of a bulk cycle. I usually use EQ, Prop and Winny. I find that, for me at least, I tend to retain more gains by doing this.


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Judge Smales

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posted October 31, 2000 12:40 PM

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I'd like to hear more about this. There is a thread down a little ways (about Fina) where somebody was suggesting exactly that. A 2 week cycle of fina- sounded very interesting


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DREXX

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posted October 31, 2000 12:47 PM

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I will be doing a 2on 4off cycle starting saturday and will post all details on here.

Stay tuned

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buff221

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posted October 31, 2000 12:58 PM

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I have never done a short cycle, would you do an injection everyday or something. Maybe something like this.
Test-200mg every day for 2-3 weeks
Deca-100mg every day for 2-3 weeks
I have never done one but have heard good things about them. Someone make me a cycle.
I just finished a 10 week cycle and gained about 30 pounds, but have been sick for the last 2 weeks and have not worked out. I am going to take about 3-4 months off and maybe use insulin for 1 and 1/2 months. Right now I weigh 210 pounds and 5'7" and about 9% bf, 26 years old and this was my 5th cycle I believe.


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Judge Smales

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posted October 31, 2000 01:04 PM

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I don't think Deca is a good candidate, and for test it would have to be a pretty fast acting variety - prop, or suspension.

I was thinking about fina. Being an acetate it should start pretty fast and have a very short half life.

Anybody have any thoughts or am I gonna have to be the guinea pig?


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gearseeker

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posted October 31, 2000 01:12 PM

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Drexx - will you continue the 2 on/4 off without stopping, or take time off after 12-16 weeks of this?

Buff - I think the idea behind the short cycles is to blast your receptors for maximum growth, then come off before you hammer your natural hormones too much. The test and deca would last too long in the system to accomplish this. You could use test suspension or prop. I dont think the deca would work well for this. You would still have enough androgens in your system after several "off" weeks, but not enough to grow on. I think its best to be "on" full blast or "off". I dont like the idea of having enough gear in my body to shut down my test levels but not enough to grow.

With the short cycles you need to be clean within a week of coming off to allow your body to recupe before the next two week cycle.


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DREXX

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posted October 31, 2000 01:35 PM

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gearseeker: It depends! If I like the 2on/4off cycles and can maintain 5lbs of LBM after the 4 weeks off then I will keep doing them forever

If I don't like them I will switch back to more convential 6 weeks cycles.

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