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SizeMatters

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posted October 30, 2000 01:36 AM

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week Equipoise DECA Winstrol Clomid
1 400mg 400mg
2 400mg 400mg
3 400mg 400mg 1 tab/eod
4 400mg 400mg 1 tab/eod
5 400mg 400mg 1 tab/eod
6 400mg 400mg 1 tab/eod
7 400mg 400mg 1 tab/eod
8 400mg 50mg/eod 1 tab/eod
9 300mg 50mg/eod 1 tab/eod
10 300mg 50mg/eod 1 tab/day
11 50mg/eod 2 tab/day
12 50mg/eod 1 tab/day

Well here it is. After a little research, this will be my first cycle. I want to thank some of you guys for helping me out. If anyone has additional input I'd like to hear it. I think I will keep some test on hand just in case my sex drive becomes non-existent.

Second, let me preface this by saying that I am not asking for a source. Can someone send me a link to info regaurding how not to get burned, and what to look for?

Thanks guys!


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Upjohn

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posted October 30, 2000 03:20 AM

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I will make it simple by saying either choose deca or eq, both use the same receptor and one will be washed away.


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BIG RICK ROCK

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posted October 30, 2000 01:36 PM

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Upjohn,
My brother I would like to correct you and everybody that says EQ and DECA should not be taken together.

here are the facts:
To say that EQ and DECA atach to the same receptors is true, yes and SUST and DECA also attach to the same receptors, and so do D-Bol and Primobolan. THERE IS ONLY ONE TYPE OF ANDROGEN RECEPTOR AND ALL ANDROGENS (Sust, Deca,D-bol,EQ ect.) ATTACH TO THE SAME!!!
the diference comes in their different actions out side of the receptor.
here is the break down:

DECA will also attach to Progesterone Receptors activating them, EQ will NOT.

EQ will aromatize DECA will NOT

EQ will be turned into DHT DECA will not it will be turned to a less harmful Dehydronorsterone (Spelling?)

EQ will cause Acne while DECA has not been known to do this.

DECA will cause some water retention but EQ is not know to have this side effect.

I could go on and on about how these two difere.

I have corresponded with SizeMatter and he has explained to me that he is Very Gyno prone, An EQ/DECA/Winny/Clomid Cycle makes sence, he will be getting both permanent size and strength, while minimizing the chance of gyno.

DO IT!


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ROIDRANGER

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posted October 30, 2000 01:52 PM

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damn BIG RICK you nailed him before i got a chance!hehehe

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power to gain from the ROIDRANGER.


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flexed1

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posted October 30, 2000 02:15 PM

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they do differ point well made. the common thought is that both substances add keepable muscle, both help promote growth and hardness, and I do beg to differ on water retention as both retain water on me though each person maybe different. deca is better for the joints so i think the common way of thinking is they do similar hings to the body thus why take them together, though your anwser is correct


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Jae

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posted October 30, 2000 02:34 PM

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how much winstrol you taking? One tab EOD seems insufficient, the tabs are like 2mg or 5mg right?


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Hacker

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posted October 30, 2000 02:44 PM

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Hey bro, I'm finishing up a cycle now almost identical to yours. I did experience a decline in libido half way through, but always worked for me when called upon.


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SizeMatters

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posted October 30, 2000 03:33 PM

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Jae, sorry about the post. It looked good upon typing but not so clear now. Anyway, I will be taking 50 mg/eod. BRR thanks for the all the help; when I finally get started I'll be sure to keep you posted. And Hacker, it's a relief to hear that you were able to perform, although I did a pretty heavy prohormone cycle that caused me to be pretty useless, not to mention embarassed, as I was not prepared for it.


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BIG RICK ROCK

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posted October 30, 2000 04:42 PM

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SizeMatters,

The lost of libido comes as a result of the DECA and its action on the progesterone Receptors, Winstrol on the other hand act as a progesterone antagonist,
so by taking winstrol at the end of your cycle you are also minimizing the chance of going limp.
(Its just a theory but we'll see if it works)

howevr if the winny at the end of the cycle doesn't prevent the "Limp Dick"
then do like I told you in our e-mail, keep a few amps of SUST on hand maybe like 4-5 if you experience a drop in libido after your cycle just shoot one amp every 3 days and you should be back in business in no time.

PS: NO shooting a few amps of SUST will not give you gyno as long as you only do so for a week or two.


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SizeMatters

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posted October 30, 2000 04:45 PM

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Cool Bro, Thanks! I'll keep that in mind.


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SizeMatters

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posted October 31, 2000 04:29 PM

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Just going to bump this once to see if there are any other opinions, or did BRR say all that needs to be said. Sorry about the format.
About the second part of my post, is this something that is just not aired publicly, or is it that no one is interested in helping out. Not asking for names, just what to know what to look for and watch out for. Give me a break, I know I'm the FNG, but come'on.


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SizeMatters

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posted October 31, 2000 04:40 PM

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Just read the Newbie post by 1911. I guess disreguard the question and I'll apologize for being an idiot.
Now that that's done, let me start over. Yes I am new to all of this, so let me introduce my self. I'm a 22 year old male looking to make some gains that just don't want to come naturally. I did a prohormone cycle which produced decent gains of 10 lbs. M y goal however is to hit 200-210. Right now I am 6'4, 185, @ about 11%. It looks like anabolics are my best bet. Well, that's who I am and, again, sorry if I pissed anyone off by posting stupid shit.


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he-man

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posted October 31, 2000 05:18 PM

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All good bro-


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