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bigrand

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posted October 29, 2000 07:15 PM

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I posted this on the Rock's board too, but i got some conflicting opinions now. I got some mods telling me to use Prov and i got other mods telling me its a bad idea and to just use nolva if needed. I trust both opinions, but i dont know which to do!
All are oral (yes, including fina. I know people dont like it, but several people say it works, so what the hell!)
Any suggestions(besides eating my ass off!)
week fina dbol prov clomid
> 1 80 30 25 50eod
> 2 80 30 25 50
> 3 80 30 25 50
> 4 80 30 25 50
> 5 80 30 25 50
> 6 80 ** 25 50
> 7 ** ** 25 50
> 8 ** ** 25 50
Thanx bros!

BIGRAND


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hooch

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posted October 29, 2000 07:47 PM

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I just wanted to say that I wouldn't use Clomid throughout the cycle.....suppose your body get used to it???...then when you really need at the end it has lost its effectiveness. IMHO


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Badkins21

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posted October 29, 2000 07:57 PM

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I'd taper down the dbol, at least by 10 mg/day for the 5th week. I have no experience with fina and haven't read that much about it, so no help there...but I agree with hooch--I know there are many people who advocate taking clomid eod during a cycle, but I have chosen to take 1 every 5th day throughout mine--kind of a middle ground, and my balls haven't shrunk at all, and my sex drive's been awesome (I'm on eq/dbol if you forgot...). If you're prone to gyno, take the proviron throughout, but forget about keeping water retention down...I've found that it's not such a bad thing--makes you stronger and lubricates your joints. Enjoy the "see-food" diet, bro. It's f*ckin' awesome! Hope you grow like a weed!!!! Keep us updated. man!

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bigrand

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posted October 30, 2000 04:15 PM

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bump for a few more opinions!


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bigrand

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posted October 31, 2000 02:22 AM

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bump damnit! i need more opinions on prov. vs no prov.


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T Bone

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posted October 31, 2000 02:35 AM

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Well, if you get any gyno from the Fina, the proviron or nola wont help. From what I've read, winny stacks well with Fina because it helps with the progesterone induced gyno. The anti-est's will help with the dbol though.

I say convert the Fina, get some winny and use the clomid the last 2 weeks and for 2 weeks after. But this may conflict with your goals. What are they by the way?

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BigJay81

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posted October 31, 2000 02:37 AM

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No need in my oppinion to use pro.
Looks good save it for something else

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bigrand

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posted October 31, 2000 02:44 AM

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Well im hopin to cut a little fat and to add a good 15-20 pounds. Seems possible on the first cycle.
Ive also had people tell me not to use clomid throughout. I dont want the hpta to dip to much so i have a better chance to keep the gains.

Hey bigjay, should i throw in nolva or just have some on hand just incase?

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BigJay81

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posted October 31, 2000 02:51 AM

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ALLWAYS HAVE IT ON HAND.

YOU DON'T WANT BREAST DO YA?
I HOPE NOT.
lol

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The Shadow

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posted October 31, 2000 09:10 AM

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Drop the Prov and add some Winny

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It doesn't matter whether you are a lion or a gazelle, when the sun comes up - you had better be running.


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bigrand

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posted October 31, 2000 04:12 PM

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Thanx for the replies bros.
Im gonna drop the prov to get better gains from the dbol and fina, ill get some nolva and throw it in at right after the dbol.
Ill keep the clomid the same to keep the hpta up throughout.

Ill be nice to the liver, so no winny this time

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