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Valdez

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posted October 29, 2000 12:16 AM

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deca----------------d-bol (per day)
#1= 200mg----- 3
#2= 200mg----- 4
#3= 400mg----- 5
#4= 400mg----- 6
#5= 400mg----- 5
#6= 400mg----- 3
#7= 200mg----- 2
#8= 200mg-----
#9= clomid@ 100mg a day
#10= clomid@ 50mg a day

nolva will be on hand if needed.
does this look decent or do I need to research AS more?

p.s. I have had 1.5 years of natural training behind me. now 5'7@184 lbs 8% BF
I have my diet and training down solid.

what do you think?
is that better (edited after 1st 2 posts)

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RIPN

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posted October 29, 2000 12:25 AM

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You might want to run the dbol up to 6 weeks and no longer dbol loses it effectiveness after 6 weeks by the time you quit the dbol the deca should be running hard You might want to run 400mg/wk for atleast 4 weeks I would run the deca for 10 weeks total. Good luck bro.


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Bubba

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posted October 29, 2000 12:31 AM

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RIPN hit it on the head. You may be able to up the Dbol dosage.


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Valdez

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posted October 29, 2000 12:36 AM

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ok hold on editing first thread. OK. critique as is. (remember this is the 1st cycle!) haha, I just want my health to be #1 and NO BT's haha (those banners scare me!)

how much nolva would be wise to have on hand?? (I can use the search) asking for direct advice??

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JoeyDillinger

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posted October 29, 2000 12:43 AM

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Hey Valdez, cool cycle let me know what your results are with it


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ex-infantry

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posted October 29, 2000 01:49 AM

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bro, do not pyramid the deca or the d-bol. run the deca for weeks 1-6 at 400mg, then week 7 at 300 and week 8 at 200mg. run the d-bol at 6/day weeks 1and 2, 5/day weeks 3 and 4 then 4/day for week 5. just my .02 cents.

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ghans

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posted October 29, 2000 01:57 AM

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Pyramiding the deca like you have may be o.k. but dbol should start high then taper down to give your cycle a kick start. My 2 cents.

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lawnsaver

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posted October 29, 2000 02:12 AM

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Start high on both and taper at the end. Use the nolva in combination with the d-bol(dont wait for signs of gyno)it will only help control estrogen. Hit the clomid at the end. Keep us updated


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nhbking

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posted October 29, 2000 06:08 AM

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all that smacktalk to me about staying natural, and it was AFTER this post. youre straight up retarded


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Bchemist

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posted October 29, 2000 07:03 AM

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I've done d-bol twice now, and I can honestly say that tapering is an absolute waste.

Keep the dose constant at 40mg throughout...6-8 weeks.


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Daeo

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posted October 29, 2000 12:24 PM

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I believe in starting high and tapering off the last few weeks. With the exception of dbol. I'd run that at 30-40mgs for 5-6 weeks.

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Ice Man

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posted October 29, 2000 12:41 PM

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For a first cycle, forget the Dbol all together. Run either Deca/Primo, my preferred first cycle or Sus/Deca. Both will give you lasting gains.


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The_Natural

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posted October 29, 2000 01:45 PM

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Ice Man, I thought deca and primo compete for the same recept. sites? What sort of levels would you use for the deca/ primo cycle? I'm considering a primo/anavar cycle; 200-300 primo/wk and 10mg anavar/day. I'm wondering though, should I start one b4 the other? Would it be better to end the cycle finishing up with anavar only? thx.


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The_Natural

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posted October 29, 2000 09:11 PM

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hooch

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posted October 29, 2000 09:15 PM

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Start the DECA at 400mg.....


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