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 winstrol w/ an insulin needle?
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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BigMoFo would like to shoot Winstrol in his shoulder w/ an insulin needle. Would using such a small needle be a problem?     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 398 |
As long as its at least 3/4 inch pin you will be ok. The pain will still be there because of the winny being water based, the shoulder will still be soar | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 2812 |
As it is a water based 17AA...an Insulin pin will be fine Juicy....Biceps are good to...Insane PUMPS......!!!!!!! Ranger | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1172 |
You can use an 1/2 inch 30 gauge if your Winny is micro refined. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 10 |
If the winny is micronized, you are in luck. If not, then 23g max. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1172 |
Stan you must be joking? I shoot my Primo with a 25 gauge, oil based. Winny, waterbased even NOT micro refined, can be shot with a 28 gauge. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 710 |
No way a 28 guage. I used a 25g and couldn't get a f*ing drop out of it. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1172 |
Jersey, i draw it up with a 27. Are you sure you have Winny ? Besides it is waterbased, and Primo is the tickest oil based roid. I even did Primo with a 27 gauge and for testing with a insulin needle/syringe. It simply is not possible that you have problems shooting Winny with a insulin needle. You definitly have fake gear. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Novice
Posts: 8 |
JUST DRINK IT!! Seriously  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1172 |
Filo, you can drink it, BUT it passes the liver to go in the bloodstream, and this will be avoided if you shoot it. It is already hard enough on the liver when you shoot it, so do not drink it. Saves yourself one pass. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1764 |
Jeff, There is no advantage to shooting the winny as opposed to drinking it. Injecting gets it into the liver just as fast and as often as drinking it. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN RESULTS. Since winny is a 17AA it is designed to be resistant to breakdown by the liver. Winny's medical use is to help cancer poatients undergoing chemo to maintain some of their muscle mass - and the addition of the alkyle group (17AA) allows them to take fewer doses, since it takes a long time to break down. 17AA is what makes winny hard on the liver. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1172 |
Matt is disagree. If you shoot it, it will be already in the bloodstream. If you drink it, it has to pass the liver to get into the bloodstream. My doc gives me Primo Depot and i can get Stromba orals (they don't sell Strombaject in the Belgian pharmacy), but he claims it will be worse for the liver since it are orals. So, i will never drink the Winny. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1764 |
Jeff, Nothing gets absorbed by the body until it passes through the liver, no matter how it gets into your system. Check this out: | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1172 |
So orals pass the liver to get into the bloodstream and then pass another time to get into the body. So they pass twice. I will front my doctor with this when i see him (2 weeks from now) and post his answer. I still disagree, maybe i am wrong, but he, this is my opinion. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1172 |
With orals i also mean drinking the Winny. Nothing comes in the body just passing the liver. Everything has to come into the bloodstream, then passes the liver, then enters the body (in my opinion). ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Novice
Posts: 10 |
Jeff, I have used 23g with non-micronized winny (RWR)and it clogs about 30-40% of the time. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1172 |
I only used Zambon so far, so i cannot tell. But if you can EASILY draw up the Winny with a 27, you can easily shoot with a 29-30. I cannot draw the Primobolan up with a 23, but i can shoot it with a 25. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Novice
Posts: 10 |
Try it a few times and you'll see . | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 772 |
One issue that I have not seen addressed to my satisfaction is that of increased liver toxicity from drinking injectable winstrol. If you take the full dose at once (50mg) is there not more drug passing through the liver in a given period of time? Is it not possible that if this is the case it could be harder on the liver? |
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posted October 28, 2000 10:47 PM