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THE WHITE BUFFALO

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posted October 28, 2000 06:42 PM

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I recently purchased some Pakistan Sustanon 250 and stuck it the freezer next to one of my redi-jects (which from experience I know are real) and the redi-ject clouded up fast and the other never really clouded up. So is the freezer test 100% accurate. Because I have looked at pictures and lot numbers for the Pakistan gear and it all says its the real deal. So is this a good fake or is the factory making bad gear. Thanks


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The Shadow

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posted October 28, 2000 08:50 PM

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Forget about the Freezer test - gym lore. Most of the alcohols used for sterilization will turn cloudy in the freezer. That is no indication of the presence of juice or not.

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Every morning in Africa, a lion wakes up. It realizes that it must run faster than the slowest gazelle, or it will starve to death.

The moral?

It doesn't matter whether you are a lion or a gazelle, when the sun comes up - you had better be running.


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THE WHITE BUFFALO

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posted October 28, 2000 09:04 PM

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Thanks for the advice. But I guess if given a choice I would rather buy the one that clouds up . Good news though, my buddy tried it and his ass hurts like a mother, thats one sign that it might be real.


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dahmer

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posted October 28, 2000 09:04 PM

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"gym lore???" what the fuck??? The freezer test DOES work!!! If the oil freezes cloudy it indicates that there is test in the suspension. Who knows what kind or how much, just that there is. Oil alone will not cloud up without test in it. The problem with this test is the amps you have may be fake sust. They may contain 100 of cyp(example) it would still cloud up. at least you will know if there is any active ingrediant in the mix.


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dahmer

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posted October 28, 2000 09:06 PM

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One more thing, taste a drop of it. Place the drop on your tongue and let it sit for a minute. It should make your tongue numb. That is another indication of test in the mix. Oh!! I am sorry!! That must be gym lore also!!!


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The Shadow

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posted October 28, 2000 09:10 PM

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Dahmer - sorry bro - but benzyl alcohol WILL turn cloudy in a freezer in oil, whether test esters are present or not.
Oh yeah - BTW the reason your tongue goes numb is because of the alcohol present. Why would you possibly think that Test only would make the tongue numb. Why not Deca or EQ, etc? Every oil-based anabolic will numb your tongue; not because of some magic property inherent in the anabolic, but because of the alcohol. Try it with some Isopropyl if you don't believe me.

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Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up. It realizes that it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed.
Every morning in Africa, a lion wakes up. It realizes that it must run faster than the slowest gazelle, or it will starve to death.

The moral?

It doesn't matter whether you are a lion or a gazelle, when the sun comes up - you had better be running.

[This message has been edited by The Shadow (edited October 28, 2000).]


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dahmer

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posted October 28, 2000 09:12 PM

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Will it freeze???


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The Shadow

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posted October 28, 2000 09:21 PM

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It could possibly freeze, or not - depends on how cold the freezer is. Even if some ice crystals form - the minute you swirl they begin to go back into solution and look cloudy.

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Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up. It realizes that it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed.
Every morning in Africa, a lion wakes up. It realizes that it must run faster than the slowest gazelle, or it will starve to death.

The moral?

It doesn't matter whether you are a lion or a gazelle, when the sun comes up - you had better be running.


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The Shadow

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posted October 28, 2000 09:35 PM

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Bump


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THE WHITE BUFFALO

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posted October 28, 2000 10:02 PM

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This what I love about this site. I decided to research "Pakistan Sustanon" and got all kinds of results. But most which say its real. There is even a post which talks about how it wont freeze. I find it hard to believe that going way back that everybody has been getting good results if it is fake. I wonder if it is being made different in Pakistan? Does anybody else have any Pakistan Sustanon and if so try to freeze it and let me know what happens. Thanks!


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The Shadow

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posted October 28, 2000 10:42 PM

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Bump for the late-nighters.


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dahmer

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posted October 28, 2000 11:48 PM

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I have NOT come across a sust that doesn't freeze. Nile, Dura, Poly, Omna, Redijects. They ALL freeze. they freeze in like 2 minutes, then when you hold them between your finger tips, they instantly(all of a sudden) turn from a cloudy solid to a clear/yellowish liquid. All of them do that. No ice crystals, just a solid cloudy freeze. I would ike to know what kind of sust, besides fake, that won't do that??? I while back someone posted that any oil will freeze and turn cloudy in the freezer. Not true. The cloudiness indicates test in the mix.


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The Shadow

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posted October 29, 2000 10:29 AM

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Oil will not freeze. The alcohol that is present WILL turn cloudy.


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Loophole Genetics

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posted October 29, 2000 10:40 AM

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I think the freezer test is bull. I've got some amps that I know are real (a friend is doing them, and only them, with good results) and they don't cloud up. At first, I thought they were clouded, but then I noticed it was frost or something. As soon as my finger touched the amp, it wiped off the frost on the amp. No clouds inside the amp, though.


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The Shadow

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posted October 29, 2000 02:20 PM

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To the top...


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THE WHITE BUFFALO

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posted October 29, 2000 07:32 PM

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Bump... Would still like to find out if anybody else has Pakistan Sustanon250 that doesnt freeze, and if its working for them or not. Thanks!!


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dahmer

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posted October 29, 2000 10:44 PM

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Is this a joke??? Sust/Omna freezes. And quickly too!! This test does work, if only to indicate test in the solution. I just received a new shipment of the newer Omnas and guess what??? They all freeze and freeze cloudy.


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FOZY

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posted October 29, 2000 11:16 PM

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Freezer test is missleading. Mabey it does show the presence of test and mabey it doesn't. I am not a chemist and do not know the chemical reaction that takes place when test is cooled.

I DO KNOW THIS...you can put some cooking oil in the fridge and it is going to cloud up. Try it !!! ( I have only tried it with veg. oil and olive, both clouded.) So this leads me to the conclusion that the freezer test is not an accurate measurement if your geer is real pr not

Taste some on your tongue..If it numbs it it is most likely real....

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dahmer

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posted October 29, 2000 11:50 PM

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Where is Coolhand??? He said the fake shit will NOT cloud up. I have yet to see amps that don't freeze.


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THE WHITE BUFFALO

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posted October 30, 2000 01:35 AM

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Fozy is right, I stuck some oil in the freezer and it clouded up pretty fast and looked just like gear. Which makes me wonder then what wouldnt cloud up like the Sus. I have?


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The Shadow

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posted October 30, 2000 10:24 AM

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For the last time - the Freezer test is BS.

Also - the reason an anabolic burns or makes your tongue numb is because of the alcohol present.


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triton

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posted October 30, 2000 02:23 PM

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Bump this up for all who haven't read yet.


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GymRatSD

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posted October 30, 2000 02:32 PM

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I don't even know if I should bother with this one...

The freezer test is NOT a good test. Why? Cooling an oil based solution reduces the amount of material that can be dissolved in it. That means any material. It doesn't have to be testosterone. It could be aspirin. It could be some other drug. The cloudiness caused by the cooling of the solution is whatever that was dissolved is now precipitating out. Again, this could be anything, including benzyl alcohol (BTW... this is added to increase the solubility of certain materials in the solution -- NOT to sterilize it.)

So, as I hope you all see, the freezer test is very crude and non-specific. All it shows is that something is dissolved in the oil, not necessarily testosterone.


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