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Cool Novice 
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What do you think guys? I'm really hoping for some feedback here. 6week cycle of Paradeca 357 and Decavar 257. Taking 10-12cc(ml) a day, spread between 3 daily doses, with no days off. This is about twice the recommended dose. Along with this, 100mg of chrysin (50mg morning, 50mg evening). Are there any other natural supplements I should throw in there to help against aromatization? Would I want anything else against side effects? I'm currently ingesting 150g of Whey protein, and am on a low fat, mod carb, high protein diet. I'm currently 19, serious lifting for 4yrs. and competeing for 2 years, U.S. Marine, 5'10" 176lbs. 7%bf. I want to try a decent sized natural cycle to see what I can get out of it, before I commit to gear. Please just comment on this natural cycle since I'm giving it one last chance. Thanks guys for any input you can give. -Blackop
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Moderator 
Posts: 805 |
I've never heard of paradeca nor decavar, but I'm assuming that they are prohormones. In that case you are NOT taking a natural cycle, only a legal cycle. Next, prohormones will give you ALL the sides of gear! Get some saw palmetto and milk thistle while your at it. Also use some tribulus terrestus. Then you'll have every herbal remedy to combat all prohormone sides. Whether or not they work.....who knows? I'm assuming, from there names that they are deca based prohormones based on their names. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 29 |
Thanks alot for the info. VPX is the company that makes the two products.They make some pretty good stuff. Yes, it's a prohormone stack, I figure legal=natural, but oh well. Do I want to take the milkthistle,trib,and saw palmetto through the entire cycle, or just for the last two or three weeks? Thanks man, Anybody else comment? -Blackop | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 390 |
I've used vpx products and they are the best. Substitute Methoxygen for the paradeca its more money but its awsome | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 29 |
bump anyone else?? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 314 |
I'd use Tribex-500 throughout and especially post cycle. Also, a ZMA formula post cycle. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 11 |
Blackop, I must say that i have been down this very road before. I tried all different kinds of prohormone and supplement stacks,including VPX products, and the fact is that the results are horrible. I have finally come to the conclusion that gear is the only way to go. After researching it for quite a while I am ready to spend my money on something that will bring definite results. If I had all the money back that I wasted on all that supplement bullshit I would be a rich man. But if you want "natural", more power to you. I just thinks it is a waste of time and money to be searching for that elusive supplement to deliver the goods that gear already does. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 45 |
I would have to agree with the cobra get the real shit bro. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 29 |
come on guys, I said info pertaining to THIS stack. I know about AS but I would like to know how a really good, high dose, prohormone cycle with VPX's products. I've heard even from alot of you on the AS board that you love VPX, so what's a big 6 week stack that 'might' give some results. -Blackop | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 551 |
I say give it a shot, its worth a try. I've used Decavar 257 about 6months ago. I only gained about 3lbs. I really didnt notice any strength gains either. HOwever I do believe it works due to the fact that I got bad acne on my face that took forever for me to get rid of, and it killed my sex drive and ablility to get an erection for about 5months (decavar has high amts of norandro and convert to nortest and progestinic sides). Also some people respond differently to AS as well as prohormones, so you may respond very well to the stack that you have planned out. \ By the way you dont need to supplement with tribulus because both products contain it. |
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posted October 28, 2000 06:33 PM