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Mrfox

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posted October 28, 2000 09:56 AM

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Do U have any suggestion for a short cycle, maybe 2 weeks on 4 weeks off, doing test prop.?

HAve anyone done a short cycle with test prop.?

stats: appr. H: 182cm, Bw 86kg(1kg=2.2lb), bf:12%

I've looked for old post's but couldn't find any info.


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The Shadow

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posted October 28, 2000 10:59 AM

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Try 800 mg of Enanthate on day 1, followed by 100 mg Prop EOD.

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Every morning in Africa, a lion wakes up. It realizes that it must run faster than the slowest gazelle, or it will starve to death.

The moral?

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Maverik

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posted October 28, 2000 11:45 AM

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Shadow, perhaps you need to go read this: https://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/10-2000/033360.html
Enanthanate is not a good choice because it is in the body for too long.

MrFox, email macrophage69alpha and he can help. From what he has said in the past, something like 150 mg EOD works good for a short cycle. You can vary this dosage but this is an average, I guess. I am also considering using test prop with finasteride for some future short cycles.

Keep me updated on your choice. I have been doing lots of research on short cycles so if you have some questions, I would be more than happy to try and help. I am not a short cycle "expert" but I have picked up a few things.


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Maverik

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posted October 28, 2000 06:25 PM

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BUMP!


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The Shadow

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posted October 28, 2000 08:21 PM

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Maverick - the 1/2 life of Enanthate is, on average 5 days. Therefore after 17 days(the 14 days plus the three days allowed for the Prop to clear assuming he takes a shot on day 14) - over 92% of the Enanthate is gone. Granted this would work much better for a 3 week cycle, but the Enan. certainly help the gains for a two week cycle.

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Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up. It realizes that it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed.
Every morning in Africa, a lion wakes up. It realizes that it must run faster than the slowest gazelle, or it will starve to death.

The moral?

It doesn't matter whether you are a lion or a gazelle, when the sun comes up - you had better be running.


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The Shadow

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posted October 28, 2000 10:43 PM

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Bump for the night-owls.


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Mrfox

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posted October 29, 2000 09:30 AM

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Maverik: Do U think 100mg prop. EOD Is a waste of gear(not that U have said that, but...), or can I expect I gain of 8-10lb???

Short cycles must be good from the view of not gaining any fat. If I was to do a short cycle with prop for 2 weeks, the fat gain wouldn't be that big. I have this problem everytime I bulk up, even though I don't eat to much carbs or fat(have tested all sorts of diet's) I alwais gain a lot of fat. So maybe a short cycle would be perfect for me.

I'm going to test 50mg/dbol for 2 weeks, as a test(lab-monkey ) I'll keep U posted.


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Maverik

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posted October 29, 2000 01:54 PM

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Shadow, I believe you are right about that. So it might work OK but I would rather just take more prop and forget the enanthanate. It just seems that most longer acting esters don't work that well for short cycles. It looks like that cycle you described would work ouy pretty good, but being as I have yet to attempt a short cycle, I really can't say. Have you done a cycle like this and if so what were your results??

And Mr.Fox, I think alot of how much you gain will vary due to many factors. Typical gains for a good short cycle are anywhere from 5-10 lbs so your gains are possible, but if I were you, I would save that dbol and do a test prop/dbol stack. You could probably go with only 100 mg EOD, but keep in mind that you could probably do a little better and reach your goals if you did 150 mg EOD. If you did 150 mg EOD of prop and stacked that with 30-50 mg of dbol per day, that would be a great short cycle.


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The Shadow

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posted October 29, 2000 02:16 PM

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This is why Elite rocks - no flames. Just guys discussing different POV's.

Yes, I did try a short(14 day) cycle. 800 mg Enanthate on day one, and then 100 mg Prop EOD thru Day 14.

Ate approx 4000 cal/day on a 50/25/25 split of C/P/F.

By day 14 I was up 8 pounds, 5 of which I kept. There were No sides.

I am currently experimenting with a 6 week cycle that uses long lasting esters for the first two weeks, and fast ones for the remaining 4 weeks.

Week 1 - 2000mg Sus and 1000 mg Deca
Week 2 - 1000 mg Enanthate and 500 mg Deca
Weeks 3-6 - 100 mg Prop EOD.

I know a lot of people will roll their eyes at the cycle, but I had heard some good things about Androgen loading at the start of a cycle and wanted to try it for myself.

Tomorrow is the start of week 3. Up 12 pounds over two weeks - lots of water though.


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Maverik

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posted October 29, 2000 06:11 PM

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Sounds good, Shadow. Gald to hear the short cycle went well.


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