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TEMEX

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posted October 28, 2000 12:18 AM

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is it just me or do pressdowns fuck up your elbows.Can some of u bros tell me what i might be doing wrong.thanks


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benzo27

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posted October 28, 2000 12:22 AM

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Mine will hurt if I'm not good and warmed up.


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Blackop

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posted October 28, 2000 12:28 AM

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If you feel something 'hopping, it's probably an Ulner Nerve subflection.
If you think it is, you might eventually nedd an ulner nerve transplant. If you do get one, it's just an outpatient, pretty quick. Look into it.
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Badkins21

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posted October 28, 2000 01:31 AM

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Doing higher rep warm up sets with less than half of my "work" weight has helped me a lot...and now I can do skull crushers, too, using the same principle...my 2 cents!

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samiam

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posted October 28, 2000 01:56 AM

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Is it a certain part of the movement that hurts, or the excersice itself? Try using good form (I'm not saying you're not already) with a lighter weight. Gradually increase the weight after youve worked with a lighter weight for a while. I wouldn't go above 12 reps.

Sometimes my elbows hurt if I let the bar up to far. Bring your arms paralell to the floor and slowly press the weight down concentrating on your tri's...lock out for a few seconds and repeat. Remember to keep your elbows in.


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Zilla2000

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posted October 28, 2000 02:22 AM

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Warm up - light weight, extra reps and excellent form. The only way I can train triceps at all without feeling like my elbows are coming apart is to get the warm up in first,


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bigpun

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posted October 28, 2000 02:30 AM

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Same thing happens to me on heavy chest days or on tough arm days...I think that the load on the muscle is just overwhelming sometimes and carries over into the joint and ligaments.

What I do to prevent this is by completing a proper warm-up, and sometimes lightening the load. Also, don't forget to always avoid locking out at the bottom. Go easy on the joints, or they may come back to haunt you with arthritis one day.


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WCP

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posted October 28, 2000 02:48 AM

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Your using too much weight, lighten up a bit or re-check your form.

If your using a straight bar, switch to a cambered bar.

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Jay287

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posted October 28, 2000 02:55 AM

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as blackop knows what he is talking about he is also speaking of an extreme reality. In all probabilty..tendonitis is the culpret. very simply.... your muscles grow at a pace..especially on juice... that your surrounding tendons cannot sufficiently hamper the weight thus creating pain. I have been through it and it will subside it time. Try Glucosamine and Chondroiton as for minor recovery abilities and suggested to continue use even when the pain is gone...lighten your load..use wraps...whatever it takes..you'll be alright. NO PAINKILLERS!! A gunshot in the dark will kill you just as fast as a gunshot in the daylight...the difference is that you will not see it coming...do not mask the pain it will only get worse


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Jeff_rys

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posted October 28, 2000 04:03 AM

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I am with you WCP. It's the overload.
Besides Temex you are not saying where it hurts. Inside, outside or the center ?

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WCP

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posted October 28, 2000 04:10 AM

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Holding the cable and handle in toward your chest will help, if the cable drags your shirt then so be it, if on the last rep you have to use a spring motion to start the momentum of the press then so be it, if that happens before then....lighten your weight a bit...its not always about how much weight you do, but the motion and intensity behind it.

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Rocco

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posted October 28, 2000 08:15 AM

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I have really bad tendonitis in both elbows, and it is excruttiatingly painful to train chest and tri's. I bought elbow wraps a couple of months back and it has helped alot.
It keeps the elbows constricted and helps keep the heat in.

This is what has helped me. Every 3rd workout for these bodyparts I have cut my weight by a 1/4. I do 75% of what I would normally train with. DO NOT cut down on the intensity, just the weight..

Make sure you have warmed up properly..

Hope this helps..

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TEMEX

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posted October 28, 2000 12:13 PM

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THANKS BROS, WHAT I THINK I AM DOING IS NOT KEEPING MY ELBOWS IN .ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE GREAT.THANKS AGAIN.


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Jeff_rys

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posted October 28, 2000 03:06 PM

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If you are not keeping your elbows in, your weight is too heavy. Why not try to use 2 dumbells ?. You will hit your center of the elbow, not the inside.

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gipper

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posted October 28, 2000 04:31 PM

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Use Deca, My joints never hurt.


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Jeff_rys

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posted October 28, 2000 04:42 PM

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When you are off the Deca, the pain comes back.

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bignate73

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posted October 28, 2000 06:10 PM

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i actually do the opposite of what WCP suggests. i pull the cable down until i am holding the weight out in front of me a few degrees. (if you look at me from the side view my arms would be at 5 o clock.) it allows more tension to be placed on my triceps and never allows me to rest. the weight you have to use is less and i feel the squeeze more at the bottom. if i keep the bar in tight, it feels more like a press rather than using the triceps as a means of levering the lower arm. just a thought. both methods will work, i just think the less chest involvement i have, the less weight i will have to use. easier on my tendons and burns a whole hell of alot.

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Upjohn

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posted October 28, 2000 07:08 PM

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Stretch the entire area for 10 minutes and do cardio for 5-10 minutes before you work-out. Always warm-up with high reps. This is my principles.


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Gforce

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posted October 28, 2000 08:25 PM

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Well...
I'm gonna put the cat among the pigeons and say "drop them". Just stop doing pushdowns. If you execute them well and they still hurt you, then fuck em. In fact, fuck em any way......do some heavy close grips for triceps....much more efficient way to stress the tri's IMHO, and much less stress on joints as well as the elbow is not placed under load at such awkward angles.
Cheers, G.


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pittbull2

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posted October 29, 2000 11:42 AM

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I'm having the same problem with elbows esp my left the first set of lying triceps with curl bar just about make me pass out with pain and it dosn't matter if I put 35lbs on each side or 80lbs for 15 it hurts the same and i'm very strong on tri and it takes alot to feel what I need I've tried the wraps helped very little now I noticed that my left elbow the bone is bigger looking on the left hmm I'm fixing to give these elbows a break when I'm through in a few weeks.


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Bjaarki

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posted October 29, 2000 11:57 AM

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Temex:

WCP and the other brothers have given you some good advice, but I think GForce may have a point, too. Look, there are so goddamn many good tricep exercises out there (there are almost as many tricep variants as there are variants of curls, a lot more than there are, say, variants of squats, presses, shrugs, etc.) that if one bugs you, just drop it. Pressdowns are good, but are they better than dips? Closegrip presses? Skullcrushers? Cable rope pullovers?

Get the picture? Shit, I could do tris all day and not wear out the complete armamentarium of good tricep lifts. If I don't like one, or feel it's fucking me up somehow, I just move on down the road, man. Maybe you're just getting stale and ought to branch out a little.

My $.02. Hope it works out for you, bro.

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Jeff_rys

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posted October 29, 2000 12:13 PM

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Bjaarki, pressdowns will never be better then dips.

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Cornellius

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posted October 29, 2000 05:42 PM

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I had the same problem!!! Every time I do a isolated tri�s exercise first, it hurts.
By doing a looong warm up, you can do it. I just changed the order of my exercises. By doing a compound tri�s exercise first like dips or close grip benches, you won�t have problems.
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TEMEX

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posted October 30, 2000 02:28 PM

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YES I have done dips and close grips but i work my chest and tries on seperate days .And my chest is still a little sore from the tri movements and i didnt want to over train my chest.Thats why i started doing pressdowns.it sucks for me.


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Jeff_rys

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posted October 30, 2000 03:17 PM

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Pitbull, i had the same as you. The elbow bone looks ticker because of the tendonitis.
I had Cortisone shots in it (3) and Bufexine. Skip the cortisone. The only way for me to train around this was : forget the straight or cambered bar and use dumbells. Your troubles will go away. Use the bar once in a while when you feel you can handle it and you will be ok. At least i am.

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