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  Nolvadex, Clomid or HCG???

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bber2000

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posted October 27, 2000 09:25 PM

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Bros i am gonna be on my cycle soon (sus250&Primo Depot) for 6-8 weeks..depends on how much money i have. I am going to use an anti-estro...all of the three listed above what do u think i should take??? Thanks


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Badkins21

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posted October 27, 2000 09:34 PM

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That's not a cut and dry question, bro. Clomid is used either all the way through a cycle at a dose of around 50 mg eod, or just post cycle at a dose of around 100 mg ed for a week, then 50 mg ed for another week or so (with the sust, I'd wait a week or 2 after the last injection), to get the hpta back and kickin', and to keep your balls from shrinking. Nolvadex is used either throughout the cycle, or at the onset of gyno (bitch tits) to prevent it from going any further. I would have it on hand, but use only as needed, as it will cut into your gains a bit. HCG is an injectable, which you use either once mid-cycle, and once after, or just at the very end, at a dose of around 5000 iu to really kick your body back into "test-producing mode." If you did not know these things that I have told you, you are not ready for your cycle to start. This is IN NO WAY A FLAME, and I'm not going to tell you to go search--YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT BY NOW!

Have all the gear IN HAND before injecting for the first time, 'cause anything can happen, and it's knowledge that protects us.

"Chance favors the prepared mind."--Pasteur

...this is just my 2 cents, hope you hear some more...BEST OF LUCK WITH THE CYCLE, BRO, keep us updated!

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hooch

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posted October 27, 2000 09:40 PM

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HCG is good at giving you gyno.....watch out!!! The test kick is sweet though


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bber2000

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posted October 27, 2000 09:48 PM

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i never heard of HCG giving gyno


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Badkins21

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posted October 27, 2000 09:49 PM

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Look around bro, there were some good threads on HCG a week or so ago...

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hooch

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posted October 27, 2000 09:52 PM

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HCG can most definately cause gyno......it dramatically raises your test levels but also raises estrogen levels significantly.....do some more homework...


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bber2000

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posted October 27, 2000 09:57 PM

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i'll check it out


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mach2

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posted October 27, 2000 11:21 PM

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come on guys! I know that HCG may cause estrogen production as an effect, but that is not what we take it for. It is for test production as a side effect that we are after. If you are taking something like proviron it will block both the progerterone and estrogen ways that could cause bitch tits as well as give you a test jump start.


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hooch

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posted October 27, 2000 11:33 PM

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HUH??? who said to take HCG for the estrogen elevation???????????? We all know to take it for test levels.....I was merely pointing out that in can cause gyno(if not on nolva) because it raises estrogen levels too...


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mach2

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posted October 27, 2000 11:46 PM

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I didnt mean to say that we take it for estrogen levels. that is what it is intended for in females. I am saying that men take it for the side effect, which is test increases. My point is that take proviron to prevent the possibility in the first place.


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